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[SNIPERBBB]

I just wonder how prevalent it was for people calling violations for players going OOB under the old rule. I mean outside of a particular incident when the rule it was a T for going OOB where a now deceased official called this 17 times in one game I almost never seen it called or had any complaints about it being called since.

And I really want to know if players were intentionally stepping out of bounds to avoid 3-second calls!

[bwburke94]

The wording "first to touch" should be clear, but the main question is whether the zeroth touch counts.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bwburke94

... zeroth ...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

And I really want to know if players were intentionally stepping out of bounds to avoid 3-second calls!

For me, probably a half dozen over forty-plus years.

Extra credit: Out of bounds violation, or three second violation?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

I just wonder how prevalent it was for people calling violations for players going OOB under the old rule.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've been playing, coaching, watching, and officiating basketball since the mid-1960s, and I only observed the old rule called once.

Never called it myself, but several years ago I had an offensive player run out of bounds around a screen, and he almost ran me over as the lead official. It surprised me, and I let it go, but vowed to call the violation the next time he did it. After a switch after a foul, my partner was now the lead on the same endline and made the call without me telling him anything about the situation.

I have orally warned a few players, "Hey, don't do that".

Over forty-plus years, I've called a few violations for players who step out of bounds in an attempt to avoid a three second violation.

Foul called on a player (not her fifth foul) who's body language showed that she was upset with the official who made the foul call and then ran off the court (not waiting for a substitute) straight into the locker room. After checking with the coach that it was for an unauthorized reason (not a bathroom break, injury, etc.) we charged her with the technical foul. Seen this called only once in forty-plus years.