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Old Fri Nov 17, 2023, 08:32pm
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I just wonder how prevalent it was for people calling violations for players going OOB under the old rule. I mean outside of a particular incident when the rule it was a T for going OOB where a now deceased official called this 17 times in one game I almost never seen it called or had any complaints about it being called since.

And I really want to know if players were intentionally stepping out of bounds to avoid 3-second calls!
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Old Sat Nov 18, 2023, 04:40am
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The wording "first to touch" should be clear, but the main question is whether the zeroth touch counts.
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Old Sat Nov 18, 2023, 11:16am
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... zeroth ...
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Old Sat Nov 18, 2023, 11:11am
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And I really want to know if players were intentionally stepping out of bounds to avoid 3-second calls!
For me, probably a half dozen over forty-plus years.

Extra credit: Out of bounds violation, or three second violation?
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Old Sat Nov 18, 2023, 11:21am
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I just wonder how prevalent it was for people calling violations for players going OOB under the old rule.
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I've been playing, coaching, watching, and officiating basketball since the mid-1960s, and I only observed the old rule called once.
Never called it myself, but several years ago I had an offensive player run out of bounds around a screen, and he almost ran me over as the lead official. It surprised me, and I let it go, but vowed to call the violation the next time he did it. After a switch after a foul, my partner was now the lead on the same endline and made the call without me telling him anything about the situation.

I have orally warned a few players, "Hey, don't do that".

Over forty-plus years, I've called a few violations for players who step out of bounds in an attempt to avoid a three second violation.

Foul called on a player (not her fifth foul) who's body language showed that she was upset with the official who made the foul call and then ran off the court (not waiting for a substitute) straight into the locker room. After checking with the coach that it was for an unauthorized reason (not a bathroom break, injury, etc.) we charged her with the technical foul. Seen this called only once in forty-plus years.
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