Comments On The 2023-24 Rules Changes ...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

If there is a BC violation other than stepping on the division line, the throw-in spot is either the 28' ft line or 3ft from the lane line.

Is the throw-in team in its frontcourt or backcourt?

Establishing four throw-in spots when a team gains … possession in its frontcourt due to a violation … other than an out-of-bounds.

If the throw-in is to be in the team's frontcourt, it shall be at either the nearest 28-foot mark along each sideline or the nearest spot 3-feet outside the lane line along the end line.

Originally Posted by Raymond

... other than stepping on the division line,

Is stepping on the division line considered an out of bounds violation, thus closest spot?

Why would stepping on the division line be any different than any other backcourt violation (offense illegally touching the ball in their backcourt but not on the division line)?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Why would stepping on the division line be any different than any other backcourt violation (offense illegally touching the ball in their backcourt but not on the division line)?

... Because the "new" division line is now part of the new team in possession's backcourt, not their frontcourt?

Is the throw-in team in its frontcourt or backcourt?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... Because the "new" division line is now part of the new team in possession's backcourt, not their frontcourt?

Is the throw-in team in its frontcourt or backcourt?

The division line is considered by rule the BC. So if you call a violation there, then the new FC you would put the ball at the 28-foot mark. Now the NCAA made clear they wanted these plays where the line was touched, to put at the division line. Before officials would rightfully so at that level put the ball at the 28-foot mark until a clear change was made. That is what it appears Raymond is addressing.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The division line is considered by rule the BC. So if you call a violation there, then the new FC you would put the ball at the 28-foot mark. Now the NCAA made clear they wanted these plays where the line was touched, to put at the division line. Before officials would rightfully so at that level put the ball at the 28-foot mark until a clear change was made. That is what it appears Raymond is addressing.

Peace

While the division line is in the backcourt for the team that stepped on it, it is also in the backcourt of the team getting the ball. So, the new offensive team is still getting that ball in their own backcourt. Thus, it stays at the line.

But, that argument is only clear if they step only on the painted line itself an not over the line. If they step entirely past the line, that does put them into the other teams frontcourt. Then, if they're half stepping on the line and half into the other team's frontcourt, the rule itself would be ambiguous. You could argue either result without an interpretation.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

While the division line is in the backcourt for the team that stepped on it, it is also in the backcourt of the team getting the ball. So, the new offensive team is still getting that ball in their own backcourt. Thus, it stays at the line.

But, that argument is only clear if they step only on the painted line itself an not over the line. If they step entirely past the line, that does put them into the other teams frontcourt. Then, if they're half stepping on the line and half into the other team's frontcourt, the rule itself would be ambiguous. You could argue either result without an interpretation.

I agree if you step over that is different than stepping on the line. I am just saying that the NCAA addressed this and had to clarify this rule and the application.

I think they might need to clarify this with either an interpretation or even a case play. But something tells me they might not do that this year.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The division line is considered by rule the BC. So if you call a violation there, then the new FC you would put the ball at the 28-foot mark. Now the NCAA made clear they wanted these plays where the line was touched, to put at the division line. Before officials would rightfully so at that level put the ball at the 28-foot mark until a clear change was made. That is what it appears Raymond is addressing.

Peace

Yeah, I was still working when they issued that interpretation. But even afterward, I've had to correct NCAA-Men's officials about their throw-in spots in games I've observed.