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BillyMac Wed Feb 08, 2023 09:40am

Ridiculously Low-Scoring Game ...
 
https://sports.yahoo.com/ridiculousl...140619434.html

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BillyMac Wed Feb 08, 2023 09:43am

At Least Fifteen Shot Clock States ...
 
California, Connecticut, Georgia, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Wisconsin. And the District of Columbia.

OKREF Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:25am

I've officiated both of these teams. The winning team ranked #3, other team #9. Guy coaching losing team has well over 700 wins. Get beat 80-50 or 4-2 and had a wide open 3 at the buzzer to win.

Raymond Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:48am

Easy night for joints and muscles. A rest day.

BillyMac Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:21pm

Lots Of Four Second Counts ...
 
I'm pretty sure that almost everybody, if not everybody, here will totally disagree with me, but I would enjoy watching, or officiating, a game such as this.

But not every night.

From the article: ... the absence of a shot clock can be somewhat of an equalizer between two teams with a significant talent disparity. A disciplined team can keep a game close against a team with much better players by slowing it down. Fewer possessions mean fewer opportunities for the better team to show why it’s so much better ... A stall offense can only work if there's nothing in place to prevent it and a trait of good coaching is the ability to maximize the rules to your advantage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 1050107)
Guy coaching losing team has well over 900 wins. Get beat 80-50 or 4-2 and had a wide open 3 at the buzzer to win.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1048743)
... once observed a "from the get go" slow down game, a varsity game after my junior varsity game. Completely over matched small school against a big city school. Small school did lose, but gave itself a chance with a final score that ended up in the teens. Everybody in the stands was on the edge of their seats for the entire game.

How does one get these teenagers to be so disciplined? How does a high school coach inspire and teach such discipline?

As the shot clock spreads over the country, there will be fewer and fewer games like this, and eventually such slow-down, stall games will go the way of two-hand set shots, laced basketballs, peach baskets, and chicken wire cages around the perimeter of the court.

Raymond Fri Feb 17, 2023 09:32pm

State association here has said there is currently no interest in going to a shot clock with two main reasons being cited, staffing and funding.

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BillyMac Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:43am

Tidbits ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1050227)
State association here has said that there is currently no interest in going to a shot clock with two main reasons being cited, staffing and funding.

While researching to update my list of shot clock states, I came across these tidbits.

… some schools already struggle to find scorekeepers and game-clock operators and that shot-clock operators require a unique skill. “They’re going to have to be a whole lot better than your game-clock operator. The shot-clock operator can’t miss a trick.”

… “we would all say the biggest struggle we have on game night is finding personnel, at least right now. And the shot clock operator is very unique. A lot of times you can find somebody to run the scoreboard because it's just the time and score, but for a shot clock, you have to actually know some of the extended rules."


Just about anyone with a pulse can operate a game clock. Shot clock? One needs some degree of expertise.

Also, the most accurate list of shot clock states that I can come up with at this point in time.

California, Connecticut, Georgia, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Wisconsin. And the District of Columbia.

Unsure about Florida and Illinois, maybe optional for some schools and/or tournaments?

BillyMac Sat Feb 18, 2023 01:46pm

Slap In The Face Money Grab ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1050230)
... Connecticut ...

We just found out that schools in one of our local conferences involved in this year's postseason conference tournament (the biggest conference in the state) will not be honoring, for the first time ever, our CIAC membership cards for free admission into tournament games.

This money grab will probably be used to fund their new shot clocks next year.

Robert Goodman Sat Feb 18, 2023 08:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1050118)
From the article: ...[I] the absence of a shot clock can be somewhat of an equalizer between two teams with a significant talent disparity. A disciplined team can keep a game close against a team with much better players by slowing it down. Fewer possessions mean fewer opportunities for the better team to show why it’s so much better.

Seems you could achieve the same aim by the teams agreeing to play quarters of 30 seconds. And then they could play 10 games a meeting.

Blindolbat Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1050106)
California, Connecticut, Georgia, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Wisconsin. And the District of Columbia.

Oregon will only start next season.

BillyMac Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:44am

Tennis Anyone ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman (Post 1050236)
Seems you could achieve the same aim by the teams agreeing to play quarters of 30 seconds. And then they could play 10 games a meeting.

First team to win "six games" wins the "match". One sudden death overtime "game" if tied at "five games" each.

It will never fly.

BillyMac Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:46am

The Constitution State ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blindolbat (Post 1050237)
Oregon will only start next season.

As will Connecticut, and possibly a few other states.


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