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bbman Wed Dec 28, 2022 04:09pm

Spot throw-in
 
After a made basket by team white, blue in-bounds by doing the little trick in-bounds play, ie, blue #24 throws the ball latterly to blue #34 and then blue #34 completes the throw in. All legal.
Would this type of throw-in be legal during a 'spot' throw-in?

crosscountry55 Wed Dec 28, 2022 04:20pm

No. Because on a spot throw-in, only one player can legally be out of bounds once the thrower has the ball at disposal. It would be a throw-in violation if this was attempted.


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BillyMac Wed Dec 28, 2022 04:22pm

Trick Play ...
 
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Originally Posted by bbman (Post 1049635)
After a made basket by team white, blue in-bounds by doing the little trick in-bounds play, ie, blue #24 throws the ball laterally to blue #34 and then blue #34 completes the throw in. All legal. Would this type of throw-in be legal during a 'spot' throw-in?

Legal for a "run the endline" throwin.

After a goal, or awarded goal, the team not credited with the score shall make the throwin from any point outside the end line. A team retains this run the endline privilege if a timeout is called during the dead ball period after the goal. After a goal, or awarded goal, any player of the team may make a direct throwin, or may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate outside the boundary line.

Illegal for designated spot throwin.

BillyMac Wed Dec 28, 2022 04:49pm

Citations ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 1049636)
No. Because on a spot throw-in, only one player can legally be out of bounds once the thrower has the ball at disposal. It would be a throw-in violation if this was attempted.

9-2-3: The thrown ball must not be touched by a teammate of the thrower while the ball is on the out-of-bounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane, except as in 7-5-7.

7-5-7: A throw-in anywhere along the end line after a goal or an awarded goal for basket interference or goaltending by a defensive player, as in 9-12 Penalty 1, the team not credited with the score must make a throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the end line and the officials must signal such.
a. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or he/she may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary.
b. A team retains this privilege if the scoring team commits a violation or common foul (before the throw-in ends and before the bonus rule is in effect) and the ensuing throw-in spot would have been on the end line.

Raymond Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:14pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1049640)
9-2-3: The thrown ball must not be touched by a teammate of the thrower while the ball is on the out-of-bounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane, except as in 7-5-7.

7-5-7: A throw-in anywhere along the end line after a goal or an awarded goal for basket interference or goaltending by a defensive player, as in 9-12 Penalty 1, the team not credited with the score must make a throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the end line and the officials must signal such.
a. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or he/she may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary.
b. A team retains this privilege if the scoring team commits a violation or common foul (before the throw-in ends and before the bonus rule is in effect) and the ensuing throw-in spot would have been on the end line.

There is a violation that occurs before 9-2-3 even comes into effect.

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BillyMac Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:16am

Teammate Of The Thrower ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1049643)
There is a violation that occurs before 9-2-3 even comes into effect.

9-2-11: No teammate of the thrower must be out of bounds after a designated-spot throw-in begins.

Great point Raymond.

I went looking for this citation at the beginning but missed it because it was "tucked away and lurking" AFTER the penalties (I've been duped by this set up before).

After Raymond's "challenge" post I went back and looked again, but looked twice as hard.

Sure enough, there it was in plain sight.

BillyMac Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:30am

Zero In ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1049646)
Sure enough, there it was in plain sight.

Originally looked in the NFHS Rule Book in three rules, Definitions, Throwins, and Violations.

I'm not a big fan of the new and improved IAABO Rule Guide, but it does list everything about a specific situation in one place, not multiple places.

Question about a situation? The IAABO Rule Guide has twenty well-defined rules segments. It is clear from the title of each chapter, where to look to find a particular rule. Each rules segment is clearly outlined, bringing in the appropriate definitions, applicable rules, and penalties all together in the same location. As if that weren’t enough, the Guide also has corresponding “play situations” (in other words, casebook plays) interspersed within each chapter to show members exactly how the rules should be applied. No more bouncing around a rule book and casebook to find out how to apply a rule.

I believe that this is very similar to NFHS Basketball Rules By Topic.


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