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Old Sun Jan 01, 2023, 03:43am
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ART. 3... "Grants and signals a player’s/head coach’s oral or visual request for a time-out, such request being granted only when:..."
Geez, BillyMac; it's even "longer ago" for the rules-book change vs. the IAABO manual catching up with School House Rock's "Conjunction Junction. What's your function?" and the shift from from "and" to "or."

In hand, I have a copy of the 2014-15 rules book. Rule 5-8-3, without a gray highlight says, "Grants and signals a player's/head coach's oral or visual request for a time-out..." [emphasis added]. That can only mean the word "or" showed up in the rules book prior to the 2014-15 season, and it won't be until Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. is healthy or can pay an enterprising teenager to climb into his attic, will we be able to find out the precise season the rule actually changed. The first appearance in the IAABO Manual of the word "or" rather than "and" for this procedure appears in 2018-19, a significant lag from the rules book.
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Old Sun Jan 01, 2023, 11:04am
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... the shift from from "and" to "or." ...
My oldest NFHS Rule Book goes back to 1996-97 (up until that point I had foolishly discarded my sixteen oldest books) and the 1996-97 rule states "oral or visual request for a timeout" so I have (at least) twenty-six years of an "oral or visual request for a timeout" rule in the NFHS Rule Book.

However, in the 2011-12 IAABO Mechanics Manual the following appeared (I believe for the first time), "the official must see and hear the coach" and remained as such for six years until the 2018-19 IAABO Mechanics Manual when it changed to "see or hear the head coach's request".

I do recall my interpreter telling our local guys about the importance of "seeing and hearing the coach" in 2011-12, but I don't recall my interpreter telling our local guys about the mechanics change to "see or hear the coach" in 2018-19.

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My IAABO state board (as well as IAABO International) does a poor job at noting changes in the IAABO Mechanics Manual.
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Old Sun Jan 01, 2023, 04:47pm
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My oldest NFHS Rule Book goes back to 1996-97 (up until that point I had foolishly discarded my sixteen oldest books) and the 1996-97 rule states "oral or visual request for a timeout" so I have (at least) twenty-six years of an "oral or visual request for a timeout" rule in the NFHS Rule Book.
Unfortunately, my library of books also has gaps in it. Somewhere, I have the 1987-88 edition (it's the first one my name appears in), the 2003-04 edition, and then 2014-15 to the present. I kind of wish I had known I would be looking up historical stuff and I would have kept them all, a la MTD, Sr.
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