Flagrant 2 Fouls in National Tournaments

[Raymond]

So far we've had at least two flagrant two fouls in the national tournaments. One of them in the North Carolina Baylor game and one in the national semifinal of the D3 Men's tournament.

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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

So far we've had at least two flagrant two fouls in the national tournaments. One of them in the North Carolina Baylor game and one in the national semifinal of the D3 Men's tournament.

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Is there a way to do that without putting it on another website?

Peace

[crosscountry55]

Was there a monitor in the D3 semis?

I wonder how much more crud we could clean up at the HS level if we had such a luxury. Probably quite a bit.

Although even a monitor wasn’t enough to hold Buddy Boeheim accountable for his sucker punch (at least not during the game). That was a shame.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Although even a monitor wasn’t enough to hold Buddy Boeheim accountable for his sucker punch (at least not during the game). That was a shame.

He got his just deserts.

[ilyazhito]

Wow, it is shocking that all the bad behavior and dirty play comes to the surface in these types of games. My first career high school playoff game was marred by a fight in the first quarter (1:58 remaining) where both benches cleared, and thus the game resumed with four players for the visitors and three for the home team.

Good luck to the officials in the rest of the national tournaments, and hopefully no further nonsense happens.

[Raymond]

This is from the Wabash-Elmhurst D3 game. I do not know if they had a monitor.


https://twitter.com/HilltopperBlog/s...1RBIyTI1A&s=19

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[crosscountry55]

Oh. Well, I guess that one didn’t need a monitor. Easy F2 call.

On a side note, it’s a Final Four venue and the court has more lines on it than most rec gyms. That’s a poor look, NCAA.


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[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Raymond

This is from the Wabash-Elmhurst D3 game. I do not know if they had a monitor.


https://twitter.com/HilltopperBlog/s...1RBIyTI1A&s=19
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That play is an F2, even without a monitor. Extreme contact, potential for injury, and a non-basketball play. There is no justification for an attempt to rip off an opponent's head.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

He got his just deserts.

A mouthful of sand?

[Nevadaref]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95OkOX0tfEc

This occurred in the women’s Big East tournament.
The player was not ejected.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95OkOX0tfEc



This occurred in the women’s Big East tournament.

The player was not ejected.

And the young lady was wearing earrings with tape over them. Wow. Did not eject the player and let her wear illegal jewelry.

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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

This occurred in the women’s Big East tournament.
The player was not ejected.

Peace

[johnny d]

I do not know the women's college rules, but if they have the same rules as the men do for F1 (men)/intentional (women), this was a personal foul, not a technical foul, therefore, the player who got elbowed in the face should be the one shooting the free throws. From the description by the announcers, it seemed like they were going to allow a different person to shoot the free throws. Also, do not know the women's uniform rules, but it would be unbelievably bad if they allowed a person to play the first 33 minutes of a game without noticing she has earrings on.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I do not know the women's college rules, but if they have the same rules as the men do for F1 (men)/intentional (women), this was a personal foul, not a technical foul, therefore, the player who got elbowed in the face should be the one shooting the free throws. From the description by the announcers, it seemed like they were going to allow a different person to shoot the free throws. Also, do not know the women's uniform rules, but it would be unbelievably bad if they allowed a person to play the first 33 minutes of a game without noticing she has earrings on.

They don't have the same rules. Live ball contact can be ruled a technical and anybody can shoot.

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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I do not know the women's college rules, but if they have the same rules as the men do for F1 (men)/intentional (women), this was a personal foul, not a technical foul, therefore, the player who got elbowed in the face should be the one shooting the free throws. From the description by the announcers, it seemed like they were going to allow a different person to shoot the free throws. Also, do not know the women's uniform rules, but it would be unbelievably bad if they allowed a person to play the first 33 minutes of a game without noticing she has earrings on.

Well, we did not see who shot the free throws. But in the Men's rule, if the player is hurt on a flagrant, then anyone can shoot the free throws the coach of the offended team picks. Not sure if the Women's rule reads in a similar fashion, even though this was not called a flagrant foul, so not sure the kind of foul in the overall classification is considered the same.

Maybe someone that works Women's college can explain?

Peace