NCAA Men's Tournament Officials (2022)

[ilyazhito]

I was curious why people don't call back bad tosses on TV games. A bad toss is embarrassing by itself, so I don't see how calling it back makes things worse.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I was curious why people don't call back bad tosses on TV games. A bad toss is embarrassing by itself, so I don't see how calling it back makes things worse.

Almost all non-officials don't know what a bad toss is, they wouldn't know it if it smacked them in the face (apologies to Chris Rock).

A small number of officials don't know what a bad toss is, in fact, a small number of officials don't know all the jump ball rules.

Preemptive note to Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Shut up.

[ilyazhito]

You're saying that officials don't call back a bad toss because they wouldn't know how to recognize it?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

You're saying that officials don't call back a bad toss because they wouldn't know how to recognize it?

Originally Posted by BillyMac

A small number of officials don't know what a bad toss is ...

... especially in a two person game where the non-tosser has so many things to look for, possibly all ten players, and the ball.

Of course, not knowing, and not seeing, may be different things, but I'm pretty sure that there can be some overlap.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

You're saying that officials don't call back a bad toss because they wouldn't know how to recognize it?

That the benefit of calling it back is outweighed by the cost of calling it back, unless it's egregious. I didn't see the play in question so I won't comment specifically.

[ilyazhito]

Interesting. Yes, the timers will have to be reset and everyone will have to be brought back to the circle. However, it happens anyway when the tossed ball is not touched. I've never been on TV, so I don't know if TV officials think it's not worth the time taken.

Back to the OP, congratulations and good luck to the Final Four officials.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Interesting. Yes, the timers will have to be reset and everyone will have to be brought back to the circle.

More costs than that -- and it has almost nothing to do with "being on TV" specifically

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That the benefit of calling it back is outweighed by the cost of calling it back, unless it's egregious.

Agree. Calling a toss back will only draw added attention to a less than perfect toss and might embarrass the tosser. Been in this situation several times as the non-tosser. Usually seems best to just play on, seldom getting complaints from players, coaches, or fans.

If I'm good friends with my partner, at halftime, I might say, "That wasn't the best toss". Seldom get partners asking why I didn't call the toss back, usually just get, "Yes, it wasn't my best toss". Really good friends might reply sarcastically, "Well then, why didn't you call it back?", which starts the ball busting and chain yanking, and after a few laughs, we get on to more serious issues to work on in the second half.

The rare times that I do call it (egregious) back, I will often apologize to my partner, "Sorry I had to call your toss back, it was real bad", to which I will often get a reply, "Yeah, it was pretty pathetic. Thanks".

It's a fine line ...

Originally Posted by BillyMac

...some have described jump balls as microbursts of mayhem.