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Rufus Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:17am

Dan Hurley did stupid things
 
And earned stupid prizes. Slapped the ad scroller/table thing to earn the first technical then "pumped up" the crowd to earn the second.

As a UConn alum/fan that was embarrassing enough. Now there are folks defending him which is nauseating.

Only ever did HS ball, and that ended a couple years ago, and never college but I can recall a rule about inciting the crowd applying to both players and coaches. Am I just remembering that wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jls9dxzQCPg

Raymond Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:48am

You are correct. The coaches and athletic directors included negatively inciting the crowd as grounds for a Class A technical foul.

e.Objecting to an official’s decision by rising from the bench or using gestures.

f. Inciting undesirable crowd reactions.

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BillyMac Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:09pm

Barely A Blip On The Radar ...
 
This is tame for a UCONN coach, barely a blip on the radar.

We had Jim Calhoun for 26 years.

Calhoun never met a four letter word he didn't like.

Listen for Calhoun's potty-mouth voice ten seconds into the video.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/srOHqMMhCI4" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Full disclosure: Doctors at the Pat and Jim Calhoun Cardiology Center, UCONN Health, fully funded by Jim Calhoun, saved my life.

JRutledge Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:38pm

Embedding is your friend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1047107)
And earned stupid prizes. Slapped the ad scroller/table thing to earn the first technical then "pumped up" the crowd to earn the second.

As a UConn alum/fan that was embarrassing enough. Now there are folks defending him which is nauseating.

Only ever did HS ball, and that ended a couple years ago, and never college but I can recall a rule about inciting the crowd applying to both players and coaches. Am I just remembering that wrong?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jls9dxzQCPg" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You are welcome. LOL!!!

Peace

BillyMac Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:42pm

High School ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1047108)
The coaches and athletic directors included negatively inciting the crowd as grounds for a Class A technical foul.
e.Objecting to an official’s decision by rising from the bench or using gestures.
f. Inciting undesirable crowd reactions.

NFHS: 10-5-1-F: The head coach is responsible for his/her own conduct and behavior, as well as substitutes, disqualified team members and all other bench personnel. Bench personnel, including the head coach, must not inciting undesirable crowd reactions.

Rufus Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1047110)
You are welcome. LOL!!!

Peace

Ha! Would you believe I actually did a search on how to do that? Obviously needed to search a little more!!!:D

Rufus Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1047109)
This is tame for a UCONN coach, barely a blip on the radar.

We had Jim Calhoun for 26 years.

Calhoun never met a four letter word he didn't like.

Listen for Calhoun's potty-mouth voice ten seconds into the video.

Full disclosure: Doctors at the Pat and Jim Calhoun Cardiology Center, UCONN Health, saved my life.

Glad you were able to get the care you needed BillyMac! I agree completely on Calhoun. Love that he was "my" coach and wouldn't want my kids anywhere around him during a game because they'd definitely pick up a new word or two to use!

Reminds me of a story about Greg Maddux. As great a pitcher as he was a co-worker thought it would be great to get dugout tickets for he and his kids during a game in which Maddux was pitching. Big mistake as Maddux definitely worked "blue" both on the field, coming into/out of the dugout, and while in there as well.

JRutledge Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1047112)
Ha! Would you believe I actually did a search on how to do that? Obviously needed to search a little more!!!:D

When you do "share" on the video, the first button on the left is "embedding." If you click on that and copy and past the link, you can share it in many places like this directly.

Peace

BillyMac Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:59pm

Jim Calhoun ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1047113)
I agree completely on Calhoun. Love that he was "my" coach and wouldn't want my kids anywhere around him during a game because they'd definitely pick up a new word or two to use!

Jim Calhoun Report Card
Recruiting: A+ (got the players he needed and wanted)
Practice Preparation: A+ (players were always ready on game day)
Bench Coaching: C+ (poor play calling, poor substitution decisions)
NCAA Compliance: C+ (mostly minor violations, some problems with players graduating)
Public Persona: D- (short tempered, foul mouthed to officials, reporters, and players)
Private Persona: A+ (lots of charitable works, both time and money)
Popularity In Connecticut: A+ (could run for Governor and win)

BillyMac Wed Feb 23, 2022 01:10pm

Smiling Faces Sometimes (The Undisputed Truth, 1971) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1047107)

Official scorekeeper is a good friend of mine. Nice to see his smiling face (56 second mark) on the internet. Hopefully he won't break it.

What's the earpiece for?

Nevadaref Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:37am

Same situation with the coach for Illinois.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/illinoi...142959394.html

JRutledge Sat Feb 26, 2022 02:23am

Not exactly the same. He was ejected already. Just let him leave and move on. No reason to add to the issue.

Peace

crosscountry55 Sat Feb 26, 2022 07:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1047146)
Not exactly the same. He was ejected already. Just let him leave and move on. No reason to add to the issue.

Peace


True, but it might add to the fine that he’ll probably receive from the conference.

By the way, didn’t Raymond say something recently about college coaches being relatively mature, restrained, and more intelligent as compared to HS coaches? [emoji6]


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Raymond Sat Feb 26, 2022 09:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 1047148)
True, but it might add to the fine that he’ll probably receive from the conference.

By the way, didn’t Raymond say something recently about college coaches being relatively mature, restrained, and more intelligent as compared to HS coaches? [emoji6]


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Yeah, LOL. He admits in the article he wanted the first technical foul. Guess that didn't work out too well when he got a second one.

Again, another example of somebody making it all about themselves and taking away from the players and the game. It's funny how fans and coaches are the ones who do this but they're always hurling that accusation at officials simply for blowing our whistles and making a call.

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BillyMac Sat Feb 26, 2022 01:05pm

Fire Up ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1047152)
He admits in the article he wanted the first technical foul.

We see this here on the high school level, and even on the middle school level (I was a middle school coach for 25 years).

Sometimes a coach just wants to show his players, parents, and fans that he's paying attention, knows the rules, cares about the game, and supports his players when it's obvious that officials just screwed up in a manner that negatively effected his players (bad foul call, or bad foul no call, etc.), and/or team (not necessarily cheating, I have not known officials to cheat, exception Tim Donaghy).

And sometimes a coach just wants to "fire up" his players, and/or fans (who, in turn, fire up the players).

This was lot more common when NFHS technical foul penalties were less severe, only one free throw (did I dream that), and when there was no coaching box (seatbelt all the time, with some exceptions by rule) to be taken away.


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