Opponents Distracting Free Thrower ...

[bob jenkins]

Bench personnel can disconcert in NCAAW -- it's been on the test a couple of times in the past several years.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Bench personnel can disconcert in NCAAW -- it's been on the test a couple of times in the past several years.

Thanks bob jenkins. Possibly another nail in the coffin for those who have claimed that opponent only refers to the opposing five players on the court.

[Zoochy]

I never understood why a Head Coach YELLS, 'BOX OUT' on the 1st of multiple free throws.
Maybe to disrupt the shooter?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

I never understood why a Head Coach YELLS, 'BOX OUT' on the 1st of multiple free throws.

... maybe for the same reason that I will sometimes, as the trail, raise my hand to chop in time on the first of multiple free throws ... muscle memory at the best, absentmindedness at the worst.

Now where are my reading glasses? Yeah, I now use reading glasses to read the miniature comics in the newspaper. Let the insults begin. C'mon Mark T. DeNucci, Sr., give me your best shot.

[Zoochy]

BillyMac, I think you are giving the Head Coach too much credit.

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

I never understood why a Head Coach YELLS, 'BOX OUT' on the 1st of multiple free throws.
Maybe to disrupt the shooter?

*Wherever that occurs, as well as when opponents in lane spaces are shouting "I got shooter, I got shooter!" on the first of two FTs, I invariably award a substitute FT if first one is missed.

Had a coach ask me "hay ref, what'd my guy do!?" I replied, "Coach your guy is intentionally distracting the FTshooter, none of their players are distracting like that when you're shooting FTs." He paused then retorted, "but ref, they're communicating their defenses." Then, I replied, "coach, don't be disingenuous." He relented though still feigning disgust; however, for the balance of that game you didn't hear a peep from his players during FT attempts.

Oh I am well-versed in spotting and stopping disconcerting acts by the opponents during FTs. I've seen all manner of deceptively disconcerting strategems: from the coordinated sudden group coughing to the group bendover and tie shoelaces just as FT is about to be released to, well I could go on and on, but you see my point.

[Note: To Billymac, Mike Godwin, and any other readers of this post who may wonder, "why did kansas ref use a SAT level word in explaining his ruling to that Coach?" Well, bcz I presume that he had a college degree or else he wouldn'tbe teaching at a 6A level high school, and that English was his primary language so he should comprehend, and bcz a grizzled ole veteran ref once told me back when I started out officiating doing 8th grade girls A & B games: always speak at one level of diction above your audience to make an impact to coaches and whomever is within earshot--always remember kid, that you're "The Referee" and not just some fan of the game. Thanks]

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

... the group bendover and tie shoelaces ...

Wasn't Ben Dover a Forum member a few years ago?

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Wasn't Ben Dover a Forum member a few years ago?

*Yes, along with Anthony (Ant) Hill and Dick Marks, and Joy Bush. They were all true legends of these message boards.

[Mike Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

[Note: To Billymac, Mike Godwin, and any other readers of this post who may wonder, "why did kansas ref use a SAT level word in explaining his ruling to that Coach?" Well, bcz I presume that he had a college degree or else he wouldn'tbe teaching at a 6A level high school, and that English was his primary language so he should comprehend, and bcz a grizzled ole veteran ref once told me back when I started out officiating doing 8th grade girls A & B games: always speak at one level of diction above your audience to make an impact to coaches and whomever is within earshot--always remember kid, that you're "The Referee" and not just some fan of the game. Thanks]

Remember, KansasRef, my observation was that it was an obsolete word, not because it was SAT level.

But now I get to have some fun:

From the "Christmas Who?" episode of Spongebob Squarepants:

Squidward:
"My wish is that the people of Bikini Bottom will stop paying any attention to the inane drivel that is constantly streaming out of this dunderhead's mouth."

SpongeBob SquarePants:
"Gee, Squidward, maybe Santa will bring me a dictionary so I can understand what you just said."

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mike Goodwin

Squidward:
"My wish is that the people of Bikini Bottom will stop paying any attention to the inane drivel that is constantly streaming out of this dunderhead's mouth."

I didn't know that Squidward even knew BillyMac

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I didn't know that Squidward even knew BillyMac

What's a Squidward?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks bob jenkins. Possibly another nail in the coffin for those who have claimed that opponent only refers to the opposing five players on the court.

Case Play:

A.R. 236. The ball is at the disposal of A1 for a free throw and as they attempt
the try, (1) B1 or (2) bench personnel B6 disconcerts A1. The try is unsuccessful.
RULING: In (1) and (2), the officials shall rule disconcertion and
award A1 a substitute free throw.
(Rules 8-5.1.f, 9-1.1.f and 9-1 Penalty d.3)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Case Play:A.R. 236. The ball is at the disposal of A1 for a free throw and as they attempt the try, (1) B1 or (2) bench personnel B6 disconcerts A1. The try is unsuccessful. RULING: In (1) and (2), the officials shall rule disconcertion and award A1 a substitute free throw. (Rules 8-5.1.f, 9-1.1.f and 9-1 Penalty d.3)

It would be nice if the NFHS gave us such a caseplay.