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Old Thu Nov 04, 2021, 11:40am
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When they first invented the alternating possession arrow, the rule used to be (paraphrased), "Lose the ball. Lose the arrow".

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Old Thu Nov 04, 2021, 12:46pm
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My guess:

E) The AP arrow is set to team A's basket when the ball is placed at team B's disposal for the throw-in.

4-3: Alternating-possession control is established and the initial direction of the possession arrow is set toward the opponent’s basket when:
ART. 3 The ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower after:
a. A violation during or following the jump before a player secures control.
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Old Thu Nov 04, 2021, 01:57pm
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4-3: Alternating-possession control is established and the initial direction of the possession arrow is set toward the opponent’s basket when: ART. 3 The ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower after:
a. A violation during or following the jump before a player secures control.
Tip o' the hat to Raymond, who in another recent thread reminded us of this rule.

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Old Thu Nov 04, 2021, 01:43pm
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When they first invented the alternating possession arrow, the rule used to be (paraphrased), "Lose the ball. Lose the arrow"
On a play where the jumper illegally catches the ball, the rationale was it's a possession (an illegal possession) and control, and thus non-violating team should get the ball for the violation and non-violating team get the arrow because the violating team had control first.

Quoth the Raven, “Nevermore.”

I can't remember how other jump ball violations were handled.

How about a little help Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.? Make yourself useful.
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On a play where the jumper illegally catches the ball, the rationale was it's a possession (an illegal possession) and control, and thus non-violating team should get the ball for the violation and non-violating team get the arrow because the violating team had control first.

Quoth the Raven, “Nevermore.”

I can't remember how other jump ball violations were handled.

How about a little help Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.? Make yourself useful.

Nov. 13/Sat.(12:17pmEST), 2021

Billy:

1) I just now saw your above request because I have been busy this week and will continue to be busy the rest of the weekend.

2) I stopped reading any further comments in order to respond to your request and from what I read I really do not need to read any further. That said, I know that the is a thread regarding this play in the Forum from about 9 or 10 years ago. Monday morning I will look up the thread as well as climb up into the attic (yes, for this play I will climb up into the attic, LOL) and find the actual Casebook Plays (from as early as the late 1980s and early 1990s) from both the NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's Committees.

3) Have a great weekend and GO BROWNS!! BEAT THE PATRIOTS (and the Kosar cutting Belichick)!!

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