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Old Mon Aug 16, 2021, 08:47am
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Fun With A Jump Ball ...

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Is this a backcourt violation? The airborne player had frontcourt status when he caught the ball and landed in the backcourt. Should a violation have been ruled?

Two choices: This is a backcourt violation. This is not a backcourt violation.

My comment: This is not a backcourt violation. During a jump ball, any player may legally jump from his frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor, and return to the floor with one, or both, feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing, and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt, or the backcourt.
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Old Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:10am
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Easy no call.

Shouldn't be much discussion on this one.
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Old Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:10am
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Shouldn't be much discussion on this one.
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Old Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:17am
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This is a debate? I guess some people need to look up the rules on what constitutes a backcourt violation. But then again I am sure someone will post an irrelevant definition over and over again to prove some point.

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Old Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:25am
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Exceptions ...

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This is a debate? ... what constitutes a backcourt violation.
It isn't yet.

Already stated in my comment, but here it is:

9-9-3: During a jump ball, throw-in or while on defense, a player may legally jump from his/her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt.
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Old Mon Aug 16, 2021, 11:18am
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I was very aware.

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Old Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:16pm
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Easy no call.
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This is a debate?
Early IAABO Make The Call Video returns indicate, for the most part, "This is not a backcourt violation".

One that caught my eye had the wrong reason, citing the three point dribbling exception rule.

Any official that has been to a few rodeos has heard this "wrong way" explanation before.

Trainers need to be aware of these "myths" and stop them before they take hold, grow, and spread, nipping them in the bud.



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Old Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:57am
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Old Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:43am
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I guess some people need to look up the rules on what constitutes a backcourt violation.
Which "some people"? Has anyone who has posted in this thread disagreed with, or questioned, the no-call by the officials in the video?
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Old Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:54am
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Which "some people"? Has anyone who has posted in this thread disagreed with, or questioned, the no-call by the officials in the video?
All my comments are not about you. I did not say a single thing about anyone in this thread. Not a single word.

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Old Mon Aug 16, 2021, 11:04am
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Shouldn't be much discussion on this one.
Noticed bob jenkins decided to sit out and just be a spectator in the earlier Fun With The Division Line thread.

Smart man.

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Old Fri Sep 03, 2021, 05:13pm
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My whistle is my notification to the captains. I don't point directions. Is that in the manual?

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Old Fri Sep 03, 2021, 06:42pm
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My whistle is my notification to the captains.
That would certainly cover the purpose and intent of the rule.
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Old Sat Sep 04, 2021, 08:45am
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I don't point directions. Is that in the manual?
I only have access to the IAABO mechanics manual. Current manual states:

Jump Ball: 1) The tossing official b) Verbally and by directional signal indicates the teams' basket.

Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Above may not be a NFHS mechanic, it may only be an IAABO mechanic which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum.

My newest NFHS mechanics manual is from 2003-04 and doesn't mention article B.
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Old Sat Sep 04, 2021, 11:52am
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Mills Lane: "Let's get it on!"

Before stepping into the Center Circle:

1) I pointed in each direction not so much as to remind the Teams which way they are going but more as a reminder to my partner(s) AND me as to which way the Teams are going.

2) A Team consists of Five Players, one of whom is the Captain. The Captain, from a historial standpoint is the leader of the Team both on and off the Court and is more important than the Coach, therefore I always (with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirely) checked with the Captains.

After entering the Center Circle and just before tossing the Ball, I quote my favorite Boxing Referee, Mills Lane, to the Jumpers: "Let's get it on!"

NOTE: As an Evaluator I will not ding an Official for pointing in each direction but I would advise him to not do it and I would never (again, with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirely) even acknowledge that he addressed the Captains before entering the Center Circle.

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