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Fun With A Jump Ball ...
IAABO Make The Call Video
https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...78B08yag%3D%3D Is this a backcourt violation? The airborne player had frontcourt status when he caught the ball and landed in the backcourt. Should a violation have been ruled? Two choices: This is a backcourt violation. This is not a backcourt violation. My comment: This is not a backcourt violation. During a jump ball, any player may legally jump from his frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor, and return to the floor with one, or both, feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing, and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt, or the backcourt. |
Easy no call.
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From Your Lips To God's Ears ...
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This is a debate? I guess some people need to look up the rules on what constitutes a backcourt violation. But then again I am sure someone will post an irrelevant definition over and over again to prove some point. ;)
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Exceptions ...
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Already stated in my comment, but here it is: 9-9-3: During a jump ball, throw-in or while on defense, a player may legally jump from his/her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt. |
Pick Your Battles ...
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Smart man. https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.i...=0&w=300&h=300 |
I was very aware.
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Wrong Way Corrigan ...
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One that caught my eye had the wrong reason, citing the three point dribbling exception rule. Any official that has been to a few rodeos has heard this "wrong way" explanation before. Trainers need to be aware of these "myths" and stop them before they take hold, grow, and spread, nipping them in the bud. http://www.rickackerman.com/wp-conte...7540474126.jpg https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Y...=0&w=300&h=300 |
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Some People ...
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Some People Call Me The Space Cowboy (Steve Miller Band, 1969) ...
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I was just curious about who "some people" are"? Could "some people" refer to those IAABO members who will inevitably get this interpretation wrong. Quote:
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More Than Just A Few Outliers ...
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I should have paid attention to my own comment. Quote:
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This is a backcourt violation. Unlike a throw in. This is a backcourt violation. Established front court status This is a backcourt violation. The player must establish back court status before he touches the ball. This is a backcourt violation. Front court established, then steps into backcourt. A violation. This is a backcourt violation. Appears that play was in front court and jumps into the air to get the jump ball tipped into the air. This is a backcourt violation. No team position on the tip. Caught the ball in the air. Landed in the backcourt (one or both feet, or the center line). This is a backcourt violation.The player who received the ball had established front court status, but received the ball in the backcourt, before establishing backcourt status. Backcourt violation. This is a backcourt violation. Hell of a way to start the game. This is a backcourt violation. By rule-yes. This is a backcourt violation. Feet in frontcourt when jumped. That's just from the first hundred, or so, comments. I fully empathize with some calling this a backcourt violation in the heat of a real game, in real time. A jump ball is, after all, a microburst of mayhem for many, but it's so much easier to get it right in a video, especially when one knows in advance that something "weird" is about to happen. |
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LOL!! I still officiate in the league! MTD, Sr. |
Nonagenarian ...
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IAABO Survey Says …
Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Below is not a NFHS interpretation, it's only an IAABO International interpretation which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum.
https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...78B08yag%3D%3D IAABO Play Commentary Correct Answer: This is not a backcourt violation. This play depicts one of the three exceptions to the backcourt rule. During a jump ball, throw-in or while on defense, a player may legally jump from his/her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt. (9-9-3) It is impressive that 92% of respondents had a correct response on this play. For the 8% that answered incorrectly, this is an opportunity to expand your rules knowledge and learn from this play to apply the rules accurately if/when this play situation occurs in a game you are officiating. Here is the breakdown of the IAABO members that commented on the video: This is not a backcourt violation 91% (including me). This is a backcourt violation 9%. |
Whenever there's a jump ball, just before the ref tosses they always say to the players : "now dont move".
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Don't Say ...
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"You can't stand behind him”, stated by the referee, or the umpire, before a jump ball, to a player who is directly behind an opponent, both whom are ten feet off the jump ball circle, is not rule based. The rule that players can’t stand behind, within three feet, of an opponent, only applies to players on, and within three feet of, the jump ball circle. Players farther back than that can stand wherever they want, as long as they get to that spot first. Good officials should not be saying these general statements. Don't say them, or be more specific (just don't make it a rules clinic). |
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Don't Ask, Don't Tell ...
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"Everybody" covers everybody, but especially the nonsensical "speaking captains" who, by rule, we have to inform. I just assume that they're both starting (or can hear me from the bench), plus I don't really know who they are anyway because, when I'm the referee, I don't ask who they are in my coaches/captains/officials pregame conference. In 2018-19, IAABO, in their mechanics manual, did away with the captain notification, but got their hand slapped by the NFHS and put it back in (I believe the following year). Obviously, I don't follow the IAABO manual 100%, I'm a real rebel. My coaches/captains/officials pregame conference: "Coaches, please make sure that your players are legally equipped and that they know how to wear their uniforms properly. Coaches and captains, please make sure that everyone exhibits good sportsmanship. Any questions? Have fun." That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less. Minimum required by rule. https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.C...=0&w=300&h=300 |
My whistle is my notification to the captains. I don't point directions. Is that in the manual?
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Directional Signal ...
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Jump Ball: 1) The tossing official b) Verbally and by directional signal indicates the teams' basket. Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Above may not be a NFHS mechanic, it may only be an IAABO mechanic which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum. My newest NFHS mechanics manual is from 2003-04 and doesn't mention article B. |
Mills Lane: "Let's get it on!"
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1) I pointed in each direction not so much as to remind the Teams which way they are going but more as a reminder to my partner(s) AND me as to which way the Teams are going. 2) A Team consists of Five Players, one of whom is the Captain. The Captain, from a historial standpoint is the leader of the Team both on and off the Court and is more important than the Coach, therefore I always (with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirely) checked with the Captains. After entering the Center Circle and just before tossing the Ball, I quote my favorite Boxing Referee, Mills Lane, to the Jumpers: "Let's get it on!" NOTE: As an Evaluator I will not ding an Official for pointing in each direction but I would advise him to not do it and I would never (again, with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirely) even acknowledge that he addressed the Captains before entering the Center Circle. MTD, Sr. |
O Captain! My Captain! (Walt Whitman, 1865) ...
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Now many teams will award the captaincy to almost all seniors (and occasionally some juniors). I had a game a few years ago with one team having quad-captains, and the other team having quint-captains. I was the umpire. The referee asked who was the "speaking" captain of each team, asked for their numbers (all were wearing warm-ups), and finally followed up with, "Are you starting?" (thank God they both answered yes, hate to think what would have happened next if somebody had answered no). He didn't have enough time left to tell everyone that it was the black line all the way around. Player: "Mr. Referee. Can we please have a defensive match-up because three substitutes from the other team entered?" Referee: "No. You're not the speaking captain. Please have the speaking captain ask me". Regarding the modern rules of basketball, captains are forgettable anachronistic formalities, as outdated as laced basketballs, peach baskets, and chicken wire cages around the perimeter of the court. Maybe as outdated as Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.? |
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If a Team has multiple Captains I will ask which one is the "speaking captain". 1) I will speak with any Player as long as the Player does it in a sportsmanlike manner. 2) Most of the time the "speaking captain" is the best player on the team or is the de facto leader of the team. When I have a problem player or coach I want to deal with the de facto leader of the team because most of the time they are your best ally in taking care of problem players and coaches. MTD, Sr. |
Signing Captain ???
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Go Tigers. |
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