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BillyMac Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:25am

Fun With A Delayed Free Throw Violation …
 
IAABO Make The Call Video

https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...lfSlEFUNsW.mp4

Is there a free throw violation committed on this play? Observe the action on this free throw and make a ruling as to whether or not a violation should have been ruled.

Two choices: This should have been ruled a free throw violation. There is no violation on this play.


My comment. This should have been ruled a free throw violation. Defender Green #14 moved into the lane before the free throw shooter released the ball. Delayed violation.

JRutledge Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:26am

This should not be complicated. Call the violation on the player in the low block and give another free throw. Very simple.

Peace

BillyMac Mon Jun 28, 2021 01:45pm

Clock Erroneously Started ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1043696)
This should not be complicated.

So, just for fun, especially with the Forum so dead, let's make it a little more complicated.

Clock ticked down from 1:11 to 1:10.

Should the officials reset the clock?

Will the officials reset the clock?

Same questions, but with eleven seconds left in the fourth period of a tied game?

JRutledge Mon Jun 28, 2021 01:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1043697)
So, just for fun, especially with the Forum so dead, let's make it a little more complicated.

Clock ticked down from 1:11 to 1:10.

Should the officials reset the clock?

Will the officials reset the clock?

Same questions, but with eleven seconds left in the fourth period of a tied game?

Yeah, you should. But this means you have to be aware of the clock.

Peace

Raymond Mon Jun 28, 2021 02:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1043697)
So, just for fun, especially with the Forum so dead, let's make it a little more complicated.



Clock ticked down from 1:11 to 1:10.



Should the officials reset the clock?



Will the officials reset the clock?



Same questions, but with eleven seconds left in the fourth period of a tied game?

That's not complicated.

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BillyMac Mon Jun 28, 2021 02:50pm

A Little Bit More Complicated ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1043699)
That's not complicated.

One added step to JRutledge's correct reply, so it's just a little bit more complicated than ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1043696)
Call the violation on the player in the low block and give another free throw. Very simple.

Note: An added step that I failed to notice and note in my original comment to IAABO. Guess a caveman is smarter than me.

https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.C...=0&w=215&h=159

Raymond Mon Jun 28, 2021 02:55pm

For something to be MORE complicated it has to be complicated in the first place.

And the added scenario still doesn't make it complicated.

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BillyMac Mon Jun 28, 2021 06:33pm

Wordsmith ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1043701)
For something to be MORE complicated it has to be complicated in the first place

Well stated. I should have said make it complicated, or even better, less simple.

BillyMac Sun Jul 04, 2021 04:23pm

IAABO Survey Says …
 
Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Below is not a NFHS interpretation, it's only an IAABO International interpretation which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum.

https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...lfSlEFUNsW.mp4

IAABO Play Commentary Correct Answer: This should have been ruled a free throw violation.

Green #14 in the lower lane space on the left side of the lane appears to break the plane of the lane line before the free throw shooter releases the try. A player occupying a marked lane space may not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the outside edge of any lane boundary or beyond the vertical plane of any edge of the space designated by lane-space marks. (9-1-3g)

Since an opponent of the free-throw shooter committed this infraction, the Lead official correctly displays the delayed free-throw violation signal. When the try is unsuccessful, the official properly rules a violation on Green #14 and awards a substitute throw. (9-1-3g) Had the try been successful, the violation would have been disregarded by the officials. (9-1 Penalty 2.a)


Here is the breakdown of the IAABO members that commented on the video: This should have been ruled a free throw violation 90% (including me). There is no violation on this play 10%.


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