Run With Getting Straight-Lined …

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

As for the endlines, I see nothing there that I would address.

Maybe the photographer on the right is alright, but there's no way I'm letting the little kid remain sitting on the floor drinking a Dr. Pepper under the basket twelve feet behind the endline.

We have a a few high school field houses here in my little corner of Connecticut with an indoor track around the court. Ball goes out of bounds and bounces and rolls a hundred feet. Often get help from cheerleaders. When there are no cheerleaders, I look at a player, he looks at me, and I say "I'm sixty-seven years old, you expect me to go and get the ball?". I always thank the player and give him second to catch his breath when he returns with the ball.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I say the video is inconclusive. Official was in a good spot to see if he got the arm vs. the ball.

Agreed -- but he should have come to a stop at about the F Tline extended -- he could then see though the players AND be stopped to see the action.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Often get help from cheerleaders. When there are no cheerleaders, I look at a player, he looks at me, and I say "I'm sixty-seven years old, you expect me to go and get the ball?". I always thank the player and give him second to catch his breath when he returns with the ball.

Have game management put someone with a replacement game ball on a folding chair 15 feet or so from the endline (or put a ball behind the basket stand, if that's the type of basket being used, or ...). Put that ball into play and have the person chase down the original ball

[JRutledge]

I have no idea, the official is standing right there.

I will say this, I tend to let that stuff go unless there is a clear foul. There is not a clear foul. And it is on the other side of the ring. Just came from a camp that wanted us to stay off of these kinds of plays for the most part.

I also come back to what the Head Clinician stated to us. Assume they are going to block the shot. He said that every year I worked the State Finals.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Assume they are going to block the shot.

An interesting variation of, "Anticipate the play, not the call".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Kind of an interesting variation of, "Anticipate the play, not the call".

Kind of. But many officials will call any level of contact on a play that no one is going to really complain if you allow the play to continue. We have officials that think any little contact warrants a foul on these plays and his point was to understand this will happen and do not call cheap fouls.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... officials that think any little contact warrants a foul on these plays ...

Possibly home sick the day incidental contact was discussed in their rookie training classes.

In third grade, I was home recovering from chicken pox the day Miss Germanese taught cursive upper case Q's in a penmanship lesson.

I'll go to my death bed without ever being properly taught how to write an upper case cursive Q.

Are kids today still taught cursive writing, or is it all keyboarding?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Assume they are going to block the shot.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

An interesting variation of, "Anticipate the play, not the call".

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Kind of ... officials that think any little contact warrants a foul on these plays

How about a combined philosophy, "Anticipate the play, not the call. Anticipate the best outcome, a no call; but be prepared for the worst outman, a foul".

Patient whistle:

[JRutledge]

I am not trying to tell others what to think about to help them be consistent. At the level of ball that I see at the high school and college levels, it is not acceptable to call fouls on blocked shots with minimal contact. Just does not go over well with anyone. Often high school officials try to be so pure when the game not only does not need a whistle on some plays, but plays that everyone would accept nothing being called. This play based on the angle fits that standard for me. I see nothing that stands out that this is a foul. And if you called nothing it probably does not even make this forum.

After all rule 4-27 clearly states that all contact is not a foul and contact that does not prevent a player from normal offensive and defensive movements, should be ruled incidental. This is a perfect example of incidental contact. This is big boy basketball. No one fell to the floor and no one would have cared if nothing was called and everyone would have been talking about that block.

Peace