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BillyMac Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:28pm

Fun With An Intentional Foul ...
 
Should this contact be ruled intentional? Observe the play as it transitions down the court and make a decision as to whether or not the contact should have been ruled intentional.

https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...JWjhXjUuBQ.mp4

Three choices: The contact is incidental. The contact is intentional. This should have been ruled a common foul.

My comment: This should have been ruled a common foul. I'm straight-lined viewing, but it looks like a basketball play.

bob jenkins Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:38pm

Common.

BillyMac Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:44pm

Not Straight-Lined ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1041695)
Common.

Agree, but I would still like to get a view from where I'm not straight-lined. The new lead got a pretty good look and it appears that he decided that the contact was "just" a common foul. Seemed pretty straight forward to him, and seems pretty straight forward to me, so why do the IAABO International "Gang of Four" co-interpreters want us to think that something "fishy" is going on? Just because the ball handler was a little ahead of the defender? Because White had "fouls to give"?

JRutledge Sun Feb 21, 2021 01:29pm

Just a common foul.

Peace

Kelvin green Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:27pm

Common

BillyMac Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:01am

IAABO Survey Says …
 
Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Below is not a NFHS interpretation, it's only an IAABO International interpretation which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum.

https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...JWjhXjUuBQ.mp4

IAABO International Play Commentary: Correct Answer: This should have been ruled a common foul.

On a breakaway, Green #23 is dribbling the ball into the frontcourt as he is fouled by White #12. On plays such as this, intentional fouls should be charged when contact is not a legitimate attempt to play the ball/player or when it is considered excessive contact. (4-19-3)

In this case, the defender did make a legitimate attempt to play the ball/player, and the contact was not excessive. This is a common foul and is ruled properly by the officials. This is a proper way to foul “deliberately” without being charged with an intentional foul.


Here is the breakdown of the IAABO members that commented on the video: The contact is intentional 48%; This should have been ruled a common foul 47% (including me); The contact is incidental 5%.

BillyMac Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:39am

Foul “Deliberately” ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1041696)
... why do the IAABO International "Gang of Four" co-interpreters want us to think that something "fishy" is going on? Just because the ball handler was a little ahead of the defender? Because White had "fouls to give"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1041837)
IAABO International Play Commentary: This is a proper way to foul “deliberately” without being charged with an intentional foul.

For everyone who asks receives. (Luke 11:8)


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