Is this okay?

[cozzmokramer]

While scouting an opponent for a few weeks in preparation to play, Team A's coach notices numerous dirty techniques that Team B uses. This dirty play usually revolves around rebounding, particularly offensive rebounds. Al lot of elbows in the back and Team A's coach was told by a fellow coach that several of his players had pinch marks on their backs from this team.

So officials out there.... are you okay with a coach making officials aware of dirty tactics of an opponent that have been seen on scout film? Or is that something that's not to be done in basketball? I know during pregame football meetings these type of things are frequently discussed by coaches and officials. Thanks for any guidance on this etiquette.

[BryanV21]

As long as it's done in a respectful manner I'm okay with it.

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[Nevadaref]

I would not want to hear about it prior to a game. I would take it as an attempt to influence the officiating during the upcoming game. I would rather trust that the crew working the contest is competent and can handle the plays appropriately.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I would not want to hear about it prior to a game. I would take it as an attempt to influence the officiating during the upcoming game.

One approach would be to ask the coach to bring up the topic at the pregame captains/coaches meeting, when the opposing coach is in attendance.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

One approach would be to ask the coach to bring up the topic at the pregame captains/coaches meeting, when the opposing coach is in attendance.

If I worked in a state where the coaches and captains all met together, I would not want the coach doing it there either. Then we're going to get into a back and forth about what officials should be looking for. Those meetings are not for coaches and captains to tell us how to officiate.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

One approach would be to ask the coach to bring up the topic at the pregame captains/coaches meeting, when the opposing coach is in attendance.

Originally Posted by Raymond

If I worked in a state where the coaches and captains all met together, I would not want the coach doing it there either.

Agree. I don't want the coaches "debating" in front the player captains.

I actually posted this idea with the hope that it would politely "shame" him to be more reflective, finding it to be "inappropriate" to bring up the issue in front of the opposing coach, the officials, and the player captains.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I would not want to hear about it prior to a game ...

I don't believe that any of us would want to hear this before a game, however, that doesn't mean that a coach, or an athletic director, will not try to broach the issue.

So we need a strategy. Maybe it's the silent treatment. Maybe it's a "Get out" and slam the locker room door. Or maybe it's something more tactful and professional.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"We'll watch for it coach."

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

"Let's bring (other coach) over here to discuss this so we're all on the same page."

Originally Posted by cozzmokramer

Is this okay?

No, it's not.

With very rare exceptions (paperwork), the official's locker room, as well as access to officials both on the way into, and way out of, the facility, should be sacrosanct and "off limits" to everybody.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

... an attempt to influence the officiating during the upcoming game ...

No matter how I, or my partner, handles it, my assigner would get a phone call that night. Here in my little corner of Connecticut the assignment commissioner is the communication conduit between the officials and the schools (coaches, athletic directors) and the state interscholastic sports governing body (principals, school superintendents). Knowing my assignment commissioner (true gentleman, former teacher, former coach, former official) for forty years, I'm positive that he would want to know about this "inappropriate" behavior.

However, when in Rome ...

[BillyMac]

"We'll watch for it coach."

The secret: We actually will watch for it. We always watch for illegal activity, whether it's said, or unsaid.

So we've actually told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help us God.

[bob jenkins]

"Let's bring (other coach) over here to discuss this so we're all on the same page."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

"Let's bring (other coach) over here to discuss this so we're all on the same page."

Agree.

[Raymond]

No, it is not something I want a coach doing before a game. I will shut that conversation down.

After the game starts and he wants to make me aware of something, I'm fine with that.

What Bob posted above me is something some supervisors have advised that we do when a coach insists on having this type of conversation before a game.

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