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Kansas Ref Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:09pm

Flagrant foul
 
We had a JV girls game, defender pushes in the back forcefully the player that is shooting a driving layup. Player misses the shot and crashes face down to the floor, the ref covering the play rushes in and says very audibly "flagrant foul" while raising his index finger into the air (seemed even louder bcuz gym was sparsely populated). He told us at halftime that it was the signal for a "flagrant foul". He was the senior crew member somewhere 20+ years it is widely known.
Is that proper sign or has he been influenced by watching too much tv?

BillyMac Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:27pm

You Are Outta Here ...
 
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Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 1041123)
... raising his index finger into the air signal for a "flagrant foul". Is that proper sign or has he been influenced by watching too much TV?

No (see signal chart) and yes (especially baseball).

Note: Video is R rated. Make sure the little tikes are out of the room.

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bob jenkins Sun Jan 24, 2021 04:57pm

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Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 1041123)
Is that proper sign or has he been influenced by watching too much tv?

There is no signal. Did everyone know what he meant? Then good for him. (and yes, I recognize there are exceptions and times when "only" the proper signal should be used).

Reminds me of the time when some signal was added -- the rationale was "everyone uses this signal and it adds an explanation so we should adopt it" at the same time the emphasis was "only approved signals." If you are using only approved signals , you'll never get a new, good, signal added.

billyu2 Wed Jan 27, 2021 08:52pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1041135)
There is no signal. Did everyone know what he meant? Then good for him. (and yes, I recognize there are exceptions and times when "only" the proper signal should be used).

Reminds me of the time when some signal was added -- the rationale was "everyone uses this signal and it adds an explanation so we should adopt it" at the same time the emphasis was "only approved signals." If you are using only approved signals , you'll never get a new, good, signal added.

Bob, that is one great observation! (Among many others over the years)


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