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Old Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:28pm
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Just tonight I yelled “Get out!” at a player who was close. He got the message.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:37am
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Just tonight I yelled “Get out!” at a player who was close. He got the message.
I never yell "Get Out" because after all they are allowed to be there
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:49am
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... they are allowed to be there
Not if he's an offensive player, and the ball is in his team's control in his team's frontcourt, and he has been in the lane for more than three seconds, and he and is team are gaining an advantage not intended by rule, unless he is dribbling in or moving immediately to try for goal.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:18am
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Not if he's an offensive player, and the ball is in his team's control in his team's frontcourt, and he has been in the lane for more than three seconds, and he and is team are gaining an advantage not intended by rule, unless he is dribbling in or moving immediately to try for goal.
I don't yell anything. Only time I raise my voice so that everybody can hear it is when players are trying to stir up trouble.

If a player is in the paint too long and it has no effect on the play I will quietly say something to them one-on-one at the earliest opportunity. But a warning isn't a something that should be expected before a 3 second call can be made.

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Old Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:45am
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... a warning isn't a something that should be expected before a 3 second call can be made.
Agree. Well worded.

But if a player is just aimlessly and cluelessly wandering around in the lane for three seconds, not gaining any advantage, I might give a warning to player (and hit him with a violation if he doesn't comply) to preempt a coach from "interacting" with me.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:45pm
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Agree. Well worded.

But if a player is just aimlessly and cluelessly wandering around in the lane for three seconds, not gaining any advantage, I might give a warning to player (and hit him with a violation if he doesn't comply) to preempt a coach from "interacting" with me.
You write that the player is cluelessly wandering around and not gaining any advantage, so why would you warn or call this? I wouldn’t.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:16pm
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You write that the player is cluelessly wandering around and not gaining any advantage, so why would you warn or call this? I wouldn’t.
Good point.

Advantage/disadvantage can be subjective and is not very clear in the minds of many coaches, specifically regarding three seconds. I usually won't warn a clueless and aimless player until four-plus seconds and if he doesn't heed my warning he's probably in there six-plus seconds, accounting for some possible lag time it took me to become aware of his position inside the lane, and the time it took me to mentally process all the possibilities, and then decide to sound my whistle.

If I don't get him out after six-plus seconds (possibly including a warning) the coach (if he's paying attention to the game) will certainly let me know about the situation. In almost all situations, six-plus seconds is too long to legally be in the lane without a whistle, and by that time he's probably already achieved some level of illegal advantage in possibly being in the right place at the right time to get an offensive rebound.

Even the most clueless and aimless player on the court can't legally stay in the lane for eight continuous minutes.

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