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BillyMac Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:32am

Fun With Goaltending A Free Throw ...
 
Here's a question and answer from a recent IAABO Between The Lines rules quiz:

4. Committing basket interference or goaltending during a free throw is a technical foul. True or False?
4. False-10-4-9.


Is it just me or does the "or" make this an oddly worded question?

Basket interference during a free throw is not a technical foul, but goaltending during a free throw is a technical foul.

Wouldn't an "and" make this fully false?

bob jenkins Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:43am

"Partially false" is false.

And, if they said "and" someone would complain that you can't have NOT and GT on the same play.

BillyMac Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:07am

Partially False ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1040175)
"Partially false" is false.

Yeah. OK.

But it still took me a few minutes to wrap my head around the "or" and answer the question correctly even though I completely understood the difference between basket interference and goaltending on a free throw.

In fact, I originally answered the question incorrectly before reading the answer despite fully understanding the difference between basket interference and goaltending on a free throw.

JRutledge Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:13am

Since only one of these two things is true, then the answer is false. Again playing on what the rule used to be to get you to be confused. Not the best question, but it is still false if one part is incorrect.

Peace

BillyMac Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:29am

Thank You For Being A Friend (Cynthia Fee, 1985) …
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1040177)
Not the best question ...

Thank you.

BillyMac Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:52am

For The Good Of The Cause ...
 
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chapmaja Fri Nov 27, 2020 03:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1040174)
Here's a question and answer from a recent IAABO Between The Lines rules quiz:

4. Committing basket interference or goaltending during a free throw is a technical foul. True or False?
4. False-10-4-9.


Is it just me or does the "or" make this an oddly worded question?

Basket interference during a free throw is not a technical foul, but goaltending during a free throw is a technical foul.

Wouldn't an "and" make this fully false?

You can tell when people who have no experience writing tests or quizzes write a test or quiz.

There was a reason that my school had an entire class on "measurement and evaluation" for physical education majors. Several weeks were dedicated to test writing. It is not as easy as people think it is. It is often words like "or" on a test or quiz that are what makes these bad questions. The goal of any test or quiz is to evaluate what a person knows, not see if they can find the trick part of a trick question.

BillyMac Fri Nov 27, 2020 03:30pm

Trick Or Treat ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chapmaja (Post 1040234)
The goal of any test or quiz is to evaluate what a person knows, not see if they can find the trick part of a trick question.

Agree. I don't think that IAABO or the NFHS trying to trick us on purpose, they just can't consistently write good questions.


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