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BillyMac Tue Nov 17, 2020 04:38pm

Fun With End Of Game Scenarios ...
 
I just pulled these quiz questions off the Better Official End Of Game Scenarios You Tube video:

1) Team A receives a technical foul after time runs out in regulation with team B trailing by two points. Team B makes both the technical foul free throws. How is the extra period begun?
a) With a jump ball.
b) With a throw-in to team A.
c) With a throw-in to team B as the result of the technical foul.
d) With a throw-in to whichever team has the alternating-possession arrow in its favor.

2) With team A leading by six points, which of the following is/are true when at the end of the 4th period, B1 is fouled on a successful try and the timer is unable to stop the clock before time expires after the foul with the ball still in the air.
a) B1’s goal is awarded. No free throw is shot.
b) B1 is awarded two free throws.
c) B1 is awarded one free throw.
d) B1’s goal is canceled.

3) Before beginning an extra period, Team A’s head coach receives a technical foul. The extra period will begin with:
a) Team B shooting two free throws.
b) Following the free throws, a jump at the center circle.
c) Team B awarded a throw-in at the division line.
d) Team B shoots 2 FTS and is awarded a division line throw-in.

4) While the ball is in flight on a try for goal, time expires. The try is successful making the score A 61 – B 60. Before the officials’ jurisdiction has ended, A1 is charged with a technical foul. Neither free throw is successful. The official rules the game is over. ls the official correct?
a) Yes
b) No

5) With the score tied A3 releases the ball on a try. The horn ending the game sounds during the flight of the ball. Before A3 returns to the ground he is fouled by B3. The shot misses and A3 will be awarded two free throws. A3 is a little shaken up and the team A coach calls a timeout prior to the first free throw to allow A3 to compose himself. A3 misses the first free throw and then the team B coach requests a time out. The request is:
a) Granted
b) Denied

Who wants to play?

Nevadaref Tue Nov 17, 2020 05:37pm

1. A
2. A
3. D
4. A
5. B

bob jenkins Tue Nov 17, 2020 05:55pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1040096)
1. A
2. A
3. D
4. A
5. B

Agreed.

Camron Rust Tue Nov 17, 2020 07:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1040097)
Agreed.

I also agree.

BillyMac Tue Nov 17, 2020 09:29pm

Nice Job Guys ...
 
Thanks for playing.

4-43-2: A successive time-out is one which is granted to either team before the clock has started following the previous time-out.

5-11-7: Successive time-outs, as in 4-43-2, must not be granted after the expiration of playing time for the fourth quarter or any extra period.

5-6-Exceptions:
3. If a foul occurs so near the expiration of time that the timer cannot get the clock stopped before time expires or after time expires, but while the ball is in flight during a try or tap for field goal, the quarter or extra period ends when the free throw(s) and all related activity have been completed. No penalty or part of a penalty carries over from one quarter or extra period to the next, except when a correctable error, as in 2-10, is rectified. No free throw(s) must be attempted after time has expired for the fourth quarter or any extra period, unless the point(s) would affect the outcome of the game.

4. If a technical foul occurs after the ball has become dead to end a quarter or extra period, the next quarter or extra period is started by administering the free throws. This applies when the foul occurs after any quarter has ended, including the fourth quarter, provided there is to be an extra period. If there is no way to determine whether there will be an extra period until the free throws are administered, the free throws are attempted immediately, as if the foul had been part of the preceding quarter.


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chapmaja Wed Nov 18, 2020 06:03pm

I would have scored 80%. In 2020, the one I missed would also be incorrect (at least in my area). We would not start OT with a jump ball. We would start the OT with a coin toss to determine who will get the ball first.

Nevadaref Wed Nov 18, 2020 09:36pm

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Originally Posted by chapmaja (Post 1040109)
I would have scored 80%. In 2020, the one I missed would also be incorrect (at least in my area). We would not start OT with a jump ball. We would start the OT with a coin toss to determine who will get the ball first.

Yet that is still adhering to the same rule. Your area is simply substituting a coin toss for an official tossing the ball due to health protocols.
The point is that you are starting the extra period with a TOSS of some kind, rather than awarding possession due to the AP arrow or as part of the penalty from a technical foul.

ilyazhito Wed Nov 18, 2020 09:38pm

This does not take into account local coronavirus modifications. Under standard rules, OT would begin with a jump ball, unless technical foul or other free throws were attempted and made, resulting in the score being tied, forcing an extra period to be played. Apparently, CA will use jump balls as normal once their basketball season resumes in January.

VHSL will not have jump balls this season (a temporary modification), but MPSSAA and DCSAA apparently will (at least there are no indications that there will be a deviation from the standard rules).

Camron Rust Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:35pm

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Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1040112)
This does not take into account local coronavirus modifications.

How could a national publication take into account any local modifications??

JRutledge Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1040112)
This does not take into account local coronavirus modifications. Under standard rules, OT would begin with a jump ball, unless technical foul or other free throws were attempted and made, resulting in the score being tied, forcing an extra period to be played. Apparently, CA will use jump balls as normal once their basketball season resumes in January.

VHSL will not have jump balls this season (a temporary modification), but MPSSAA and DCSAA apparently will (at least there are no indications that there will be a deviation from the standard rules).

The rules of the games have not changed. There might be some modifications because of this current situation, but that has nothing to do with these situations. Nor would they try to change rules to accommodate multiple local issues.

Peace

youngump Thu Nov 19, 2020 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1040095)
I just pulled these quiz questions off the Better Official End Of Game Scenarios You Tube video:


4) While the ball is in flight on a try for goal, time expires. The try is successful making the score A 61 – B 60. Before the officials’ jurisdiction has ended, A1 is charged with a technical foul. Neither free throw is successful. The official rules the game is over. ls the official correct?
a) Yes
b) No


Who wants to play?

I'm answering not enough information given. If A1 committed unsporting conduct, then sure the official is right. But if A1 did nothing then the official is incorrect in charging a technical foul ;-)

SNIPERBBB Thu Nov 19, 2020 02:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngump (Post 1040123)
I'm answering not enough information given. If A1 committed unsporting conduct, then sure the official is right. But if A1 did nothing then the official is incorrect in charging a technical foul ;-)

The question is asking whether the official is correct that the game is over.

BillyMac Thu Nov 19, 2020 02:47pm

Yogi's Rule ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 1040124)
The question is asking whether the official is correct that the game is over.

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youngump Sat Nov 21, 2020 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 1040124)
The question is asking whether the official is correct that the game is over.

Oh, that makes more sense then. :rolleyes: :)

ilyazhito Sat Nov 21, 2020 03:04pm

In that case, that is correct. The game is over barring any additional shenanigans by A.


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