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Assigning Fee (Officials or Schools)?
Had an interesting question posed this week and wanted to get some feedback
1. What is the "assigning fee" for the games you work? Our association is 6% at the end. 2. Do the officials or the schools pay this "fee"? Our association, the 6% comes out of the final official's check. So why do the officials pay the assigning fee and not the schools pay that fee? |
For both scholastic and rec basketball, we have no assigner fee, and assigners are paid by the leagues. Same for scholastic soccer; I haven't refereed club soccer for decades, so I have no idea how that works. One major baseball assigner gets a fee from his leagues and also charges umpires $50 (as a result of this double-dipping, I no longer work for him).
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In Illinois, we do not get assigned by any association. The assignors that we work for are conference assignors which is a fee they pay them, not directly associated with game fees. I cannot speak for what others do, I just know it never comes up. And every conference gives a pays the assignor fees differently.
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We’ve had this discussion before from time to time. The setup is entirely a matter of local custom and preference (mostly custom). I’ve seen it done three ways:
1. Percentage per game fee as the OP suggests. 6% is common. Where I work right now it’s 10%, but I can’t complain too much because our state and association fees are very reasonable. 2. Flat rate “buy in” at the beginning of the season. Usually equivalent to one varsity game fee or something like that. 3. Schools and/or conferences pay the assignors explicitly. Officials aren’t burdened directly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I would add that the math (if not the psychology, and the labor law implications) comes out the same:
1) School pays referee $70 and assigner $5 2) School pays referee $75 and referee pays assigner $5 3) School pays association $75. Association pays referee $70 and assigner $5. |
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I, of course, itemize the assigning fees in my expenses, but not everyone pays attention to such details when filing taxes. |
Raymond great catch on your part!
My argument to the question posed is much the same. If you have the schools pay the fee, they will lower the game fee to cover it. If you pay the assignors out of the higher game fee, you come out about the same. |
Every assigner, college and high school, I've ever received games from collects fees from both officials and the schools.
If the schools don't want to pay for an assigner then they can hire their own officials. |
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It comes out the same in the end, but the IRS wants the details. |
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Agreed. I was not trying to make any comparison across geographies. |
Assignment Fees ...
For my little corner of Connecticut, for all public high schools, all Catholic high schools, many middle schools, and all private prep schools: schools, conferences, and the state do not pay assignment commissioners, they just pay game fees to officials who work their games.
My local board "assignment fee" is 7% of my total earnings (games and scrimmages). On top of this, I also pay annual dues of approximately $100.00. Note that the 7% "assignment fee" doesn't go to our assignment commissioner, it goes into my local board's general fund. The general fund then pays our assignment commissioner. He's contracted to be paid $28,800.00 for 2020-21, assigning approximately 320 officials to about seventy high schools (boys, girls, varsity, junior varsity, freshman), and many middle schools. Connecticut 2020-21 game fees (two person games): Varsity Fee: $100.07 Sub Varsity Fee: $64.93 (junior varsity, freshman, middle school) Scrimmage Fee: $150 (3 officials $50 each, 2 officials $75 each) |
Interesting that the scrimmage fee includes an option for 3 man, but Connecticut uses 2 man!
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Dewey, Cheatem & Howe ...
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Scrimmages ...
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How would you know what someone pays the assignor unless they tell you? I know assignors that are paid a flat fee per school. I know assignors that are paid per game. How would we know what that break down and why would we report it if we have no idea what that is? All I know is my check my be $75, I have no idea what other fees are involved unless on the contract. This is almost never discussed openly here.
Peace |
John Lewis, One Of The Big Six Leaders ...
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Peace |
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I don't agree with the characterization that it's my income and then I'm paying the commissioner. It's in the contract that the schools pay our association a certain dollar figure for officials per game. The percentage that goes to the commissioner is money officials never see. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk |
1099's ...
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I have to explain this to my accountant every year. |
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OhioHSAA Rules and Regulations prohibit the charging of Officials an assigners fee.
MTD, Sr. |
No Such Thing As A Free Lunch ...
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I've known a few recreation level (youth and men), travel, and middle school assigners who have assigned for free, doing it to assign themselves the "choicest" games, or as a supporter of the league or school. https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cart...sc1632_low.jpg |
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Bill: You are corrrect. Assigners are "paid by the schools, school systems (towns), conferences (leagues)". The OhioHSAA sanctioned assigner who assigns H.S. baseball and softball in the Toledo area also assigns most of the baseball and softball travel tournaments. The OhioHSAA requires him to use a completely separate Arbiter account for him to assign the baseball and softball travel tournaments and he charges the teams and tournaments not the umpires to pay to maintain his second Arbiter account. MTD, Sr. |
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Personally, I charge the schools a flat fee for assigning. |
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In Indiana, we pay nothing but dues to the association. The Association takes care of all the assigning and the site usages, which used to be Arbiter but now is Eventlink. Peace |
Thanks Mark!
Curious if you know the amount the assignors charge the schools/school systems or towns/conferences? |
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Schools don't self-affiliate with conferences down here so there are no individual league assigners. I have never written a check directly to a high school assigner as an assigning fee like I have at the college level. At the college level the assigners are most certainly collecting fees from their officials and their league or individual schools (not to mention the camp money). |
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