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The_Rookie Wed May 06, 2020 02:02pm

New Rules 2020
 
Any word on any new rules or interpretations for 2020?

Any ideas how COVID 19 will impact rules on player safety and officials?

JRutledge Wed May 06, 2020 04:03pm

Usually, the rules do not come out until around the middle of the month. So we might have another week or more before they announce them.

Peace

Raymond Wed May 06, 2020 04:13pm

I know your question is probably concerning NFHS, but the NCAA has put out a bulletin stating that any rules changes that require financial investment by member institutions are being delayed another year.

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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed May 06, 2020 05:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1038593)
I know your question is probably concerning NFHS, but the NCAA has put out a bulletin stating that any rules changes that require financial investment by member institutions are being delayed another year.

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The OhioHSAA sent out an email last week stating that the NFHS would use the 2019-20 Baseball and Softball Rules, Casebooks, and Simplified & Illustrated books would be the Rules Set for the 2020-21 school year because very few States even played a partial season this Spring. A 2020-22 Baseball Umpires Manual will be published; the current Softball Umpires Manual is for 2019-21 school years.

Who knows what is store for the Fall and Winter Sports.

MTD, Sr.

BillyMac Thu May 07, 2020 10:31am

With Bated Breath ...
 
While the NFHS press release on the new Basketball Rules for 2019-20 was dated May 22, 2019, esteemed and non-esteemed Forum members started discussing the new rules on May 15, 2019.

Kansas Ref Mon May 11, 2020 10:09am

Old Wine; New Flask
 
I for one would expect there to be no announcement of "new rules"--per se; but rather an avowed emphasis on certain selected pre-existing rules to be enforced. Seeing that said "pre-existing rules" would be selected for emphasis by an ad-hoc meeting of our superiors that would decide which rules that we officials are required to emphasize in season 20-21; furthermore, the consequences of non-compliance.

BillyMac Mon May 11, 2020 10:45am

Like Peanut Butter Without Jelly ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 1038610)
I for one would expect there to be no announcement of "new rules"

Hey? What would annual NFHS rule changes be without some reference to fashion issues?

JRutledge Mon May 11, 2020 12:20pm

New Rules Announced for 2020-2021

Peace

SC Official Mon May 11, 2020 12:29pm

Yet another shot clock proposal shot down. :)

JRutledge Mon May 11, 2020 01:37pm

The game is going to hell and a handbasket. How do we move on? :eek:

Peace

Kansas Ref Mon May 11, 2020 01:41pm

I viewed the hyperlink JRut provided; I must say that those "rules changes" were not--and I use the word with all due respect--significant at all.

SC Official Mon May 11, 2020 01:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1038614)
The game is going to hell and a handbasket. How do we move on? :eek:

Peace

And what's funny is the same sensationalist crowd will still pay money to go see games.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 1038615)
I viewed the hyperlink JRut provided; I must say that those "rules changes" were not--and I use the word with all due respect--significant at all.

Pretty standard for NFHS. Every few years there is something "significant," but more often than not this is the norm.

BillyMac Mon May 11, 2020 02:12pm

NFHS Press Release ...
 
Game Forfeiture Process Clarified in 2020-21 High School Basketball Rules Changes
By NFHS on May 11, 2020

Beginning next year, high school basketball rules will further clarify when a contest is to be forfeited, including if a qualified individual is not present to coach.

A proposal for a national rule mandating a shot clock as well as a proposal to allow a shot clock by state adoption were not approved.

“Information was given to the Basketball Rules Committee that shared the votes in individual states on how coaches and officials voted in support of or non-support of the shot clock rule,” said Theresia Wynns, NFHS director of sports and liaison to the Basketball Rules Committee. “The conversation among the committee members explored the pros and cons of enacting the proposal as a rule for all states and likewise for state adoption. The committee will continue to explore the shot clock issue.”

Rule 5-4-1 was one of three rules updated by the committee. It now states that a game is declared a forfeit if a coach is removed from the contest for unsporting conduct and no authorized school personnel are present to assume responsibility of the team.

“Most states have bylaws to cover the instance when no adult school staff is on the bench to attend to the team. Officials are not likely to read those bylaws and consequently not know that rule,” Wynns said. “Having the basketball rules cover such a situation helps the contest officials and coaches alike if such a situation were to arise.”

Rule 10-6-1 Penalty was also amended to clarify that an official is not required to provide a warning to a coach before a technical foul is given.

“This amends an existing rule that gave the impression that a warning was a prerequisite to ruling a technical foul,” Wynns. “Using the word ‘may’ helps one to understand that a warning is only an option.”

A timer’s responsibilities were addressed in Rule 2-12-5 when a player is disqualified or injured. A warning signal is sounded to begin a 15-second interval to replace a disqualified or injured player. A second warning signal was added when the 15 seconds expires to prepare teams for the resumption of play.


BillyMac Mon May 11, 2020 02:19pm

You Are Outta Here ...
 
Here in Connecticut, officials have been told by our state interscholastic sports governing body that once the coach, with no assistants, is ejected, the ejected coach has fifteen minutes to be replaced by a non-student over the age of eighteen. It is not the officials responsibility to check for proof of proper certification, we don't even ask. No replacement after fifteen minutes leads a forfeit by the team without a coach, even if they are leading in the game.

Never comes up in high school varsity or junior varsity games, but does occasionally come up in high school freshman games (especially the visiting team), or middle school games.

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.U...=0&w=183&h=174

stratref Mon May 11, 2020 04:32pm

I actually had such a situation come up 2 years ago working a middle school basketball game. Away coach gets ejected and has to leave, he grabs his clipboard and is out the door before we get lined up to shoot the free throws. There are no assistants or other personnel from the school available. The home school's AD came up and asked if a parent could coach, but knowing those pesky state by-laws and having had it mentioned a few times in state clinics over the past 20 years for various sports, I explained that no, a parent could not cover unless they were a school district employee. After a few seconds of thinking she then offered herself to sit on the bench and coach the visiting team. Since she was a district employee and it was a game between schools in the same district it was fine with me. The team actually played better without their coach and ended up losing by 5 when the were down by 15 when he got tossed. The time requirement isn't explecit here though, a "reasonable" amount of time is allowed, to me that means if they are working on a solution give them time, if they are just sitting there doing nothing let them know we need someone, if they still have no ideas call it, 15 minutes to wait for a plan is too long, but if someone is driving there right now, I'll wait if necessary, as that to me is reasonable.
Something like that also happened when I was in HS. I was the official scorekeeper for the varsity and JV teams, and the JV coach gets tossed and walk to the locker room. The refferee comes over to their bench as asks if there is another coach, I jump up and grab to baseball coach who is watching and was there to supervise the varsity game, we still joke about it today 18 years later.

Mregor Mon May 11, 2020 07:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1038611)
Hey? What would annual NFHS rule changes be without some reference to fashion issues?

What about colors of face masks? Predominant color of jerseay and all must match?:D

Camron Rust Tue May 12, 2020 02:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mregor (Post 1038623)
What about colors of face masks? Predominant color of jerseay and all must match?:D

This announcement may or may not reflect all that was changed. Often, the initial announcement covers just some major things.

Freddy Tue May 12, 2020 05:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 1038627)
This announcement may or may not reflect all that was changed. Often, the initial announcement covers just some major things.

And this announcement typically covers the announced rules changes. Sometimes there are unannounced changes in both the rules book and casebook that are more significant than the announced changes. Only a line-by-line comparison of the new vs. the old ferrets those unannounced changes out.

BillyMac Tue May 12, 2020 09:04am

Freddy The Ferret ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 1038628)
Only a line-by-line comparison of the new vs. the old ferrets those unannounced changes out.

And we all know who's the official Official Forum curator of these line by line changes.

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.n...=0&w=300&h=300

Hey Freddy. Be careful, it looks like you're putting on the COVID 15.

BillyMac Tue May 12, 2020 09:20am

I Heard It Through The Grapevine (Marvin Gaye, 1968) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 1038627)
This announcement may or may not reflect all that was changed. Often, the initial announcement covers just some major things.

I certainly hope so. Through IAABO, and the Connecticut interscholastic sports governing body, I suggested a minor rule change for this year. I heard it through the grapevine that my suggested change made it's way all the way up the ladder to the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee as an agenda item with a favorable outlook.

We have the “Mikan Rule”, the “Alcindor Rule”, and the "Trent Tucker Rule".

I really wanted the "BillyMac Rule".

BillyMac Tue May 12, 2020 09:24am

And Read All Over ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mregor (Post 1038623)
What about colors of face masks? Predominant color of jersey and all must match?

There will be an upcoming change in the NFHS Mechanics Manual:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/17...g?v=1589026086

Kansas Ref Tue May 12, 2020 12:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1038630)
I certainly hope so. Through IAABO, and the Connecticut interscholastic sports governing body, I suggested a minor rule change for this year. I heard it through the grapevine that my suggested change made it's way all the way up the ladder to the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee as an agenda item with a favorable outlook.

We have the “Mikan Rule”, the “Alcindor Rule”, and the "Trent Tucker Rule".

I really wanted the "BillyMac Rule".

*Congratulations BillyMac! Impressive---you are quite a contributor!

Freddy Tue May 12, 2020 03:38pm

Announced Rules Changes
 
Basketball Rules Changes - 2020-21
By NFHS on May 12, 2020
(https://www.nfhs.org/sports-resource...anges-2020-21/)

2-12-5: The intent of the rule change is to avoid gamesmanship and ensure the time for replacement remains within the rules. This rule change makes 2-12-5 consistent with 2-12-4 “second horn” requirement.
Rationale: The addition of a warning signal at the end of the replacement period admonishes the coach and team to prepare for resumption of the game.

5-4-1, 2: When a coach has been removed, this rule clarifies that if no other coach or school personnel are available, then the game is forfeited unless state association rules determine otherwise.
Rationale: Rewritten to clarify the forfeiture process and adds language and a new article to give directions when there is no coach or other school personnel, on the bench.

10-6-Penalty: To clarify that officials are not required to issue a warning prior to issuing a technical foul. However, they may issue a warning when the offense is judged not to be major.
Rationale: To clarify the official does not have to give a warning to the coach. The warning is one of the tools used to help improve behavior before a technical foul has to be given.

SC Official Tue May 12, 2020 04:06pm

Can't wait to see the inevitable fashion police POE.

BillyMac Tue May 12, 2020 04:33pm

Don't Go Away Mad, Just Go Away ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 1038633)
Congratulations BillyMac! Impressive---you are quite a contributor!

Thanks, but according to the update Freddy posted today, I'm doubtful that my change got accepted.

Too bad.

I coulda' had class. I coulda' been a contender. I could've been somebody. Instead of a bum, which is what I am.

The_Rookie Wed May 13, 2020 05:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1038631)
There will be an upcoming change in the NFHS Mechanics Manual:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/17...g?v=1589026086

Surprised no rules on player and officials safety in the era of coronavirus :confused:

SC Official Wed May 13, 2020 08:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Rookie (Post 1038637)
Surprised no rules on player and officials safety in the era of coronavirus :confused:

What exactly did you expect to see? Can't legislate away germs and bacteria in athletic competition.

LRZ Wed May 13, 2020 08:29am

There are policies and guidelines about blood, blood on uniforms, players who appear concussed. It is not so farfetched for NFHS to promulgate policies about players who are coughing, say, or appear feverish. Perhaps not in the real world, but it is, not so farfetched for NFHS, in its infinite wisdom, to think it can legislate.

JRutledge Wed May 13, 2020 09:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Rookie (Post 1038637)
Surprised no rules on player and officials safety in the era of coronavirus :confused:

I would not be surprised if states come up with some policy about things that would be appropriate for what takes place considering the virus. This was still early in the process when they met. And I do not see them coming up with a policy when each state and jurisdiction has their own concerns and likely issues with the virus. I do not know what policy is going to prevent the spread if we do not even know if how to get a handle on this situation as a whole.

Peace

BillyMac Wed May 13, 2020 03:03pm

Ahead Of His Time ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1038640)
I would not be surprised if states come up with some policy about things that would be appropriate for what takes place considering the virus.

Agree. If policies are needed, the states will take care of it.

I just recalled that several years ago, during a really nasty flu season, I had a partner who, after coaches and captains hand-shaking, took a small bottle of hand sanitizer out of his warm-up jacket pocket and cleaned his hands.

I guess he was years ahead of his time.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...2b7988efa8.gif

Nevadaref Thu May 14, 2020 01:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 1038639)
There are policies and guidelines about blood, blood on uniforms, players who appear concussed. It is not so farfetched for NFHS to promulgate policies about players who are coughing, say, or appear feverish. Perhaps not in the real world, but it is, not so farfetched for NFHS, in its infinite wisdom, to think it can legislate.

What are you expecting—a regulation stating that an athlete who appears sick or ill cannot participate? That will be easily enforceable. :rolleyes:

LRZ Thu May 14, 2020 06:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1038649)
What are you expecting—a regulation stating that an athlete who appears sick or ill cannot participate? That will be easily enforceable. :rolleyes:

I was not proposing such guidelines, which I would not like to see. I was simply suggesting that we can't put anything beyond the NFHS wizards. Hence the blue font, which, I thought, meant sarcasm.


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