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bucky Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:41pm

Insurance - missed games
 
Has anyone filed any type of insurance claims for missed games due to COVID19? Issues? Denials (act of God)? Thoughts?

chapmaja Mon Mar 23, 2020 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1038338)
Has anyone filed any type of insurance claims for missed games due to COVID19? Issues? Denials (act of God)? Thoughts?

I have not filed for missed games, but my understanding is this is considered by insurance companies as 1) a known event, dating back several months and 2) an Act of God reason for cancelling the event.

I know I wish there was a way to collect for the lost games as I am now about over $1500 for lost assignments so far due to cancellations of my assignments. Might not seem like much, but when your officiating is the primary income source, it really takes a bite out of your wallet.

SC Official Mon Mar 23, 2020 06:32pm

Big time college officials almost always have some sort of policy to recoup lost game fees under certain circumstances (I would too if I was making that kind of money), but not going to pretend to be an expert in this particular situation.

BillyMac Mon Mar 23, 2020 06:42pm

No Such Thing As A Free Lunch ...
 
After they stop fighting, Washington D.C. will be sending us all checks.

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Raymond Mon Mar 23, 2020 07:59pm

Based on my experiences with NASO concerning my injury and surgery, you have to have a special rider or addendum to collect for missed games.

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Indianaref Fri Mar 27, 2020 07:11am

On a similar note, how will the new 2+ trillion bill handle unemployment compensation for independent contractors?

SC Official Fri Mar 27, 2020 07:30am

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Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 1038385)
On a similar note, how will the new 2+ trillion bill handle unemployment compensation for independent contractors?

Independent contractors still file tax returns (or at least, they're supposed to), which is what the stimulus payments are based on.

bob jenkins Fri Mar 27, 2020 08:00am

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1038386)
Independent contractors still file tax returns (or at least, they're supposed to), which is what the stimulus payments are based on.

Yes -- but the bill also includes enhanced UI benefits, which is what IndianaRef asked about. My understanding is that since an IC is NOT eligible for UI payments normally, and IC would not be eligible for the enhanced benefits.

robbie Fri Mar 27, 2020 08:34am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1038387)
Yes -- but the bill also includes enhanced UI benefits, which is what IndianaRef asked about. My understanding is that since an IC is NOT eligible for UI payments normally, and IC would not be eligible for the enhanced benefits.

Just speaking philosophically why would an IC be eligible for UI?
(ps - I'm not saying you believe one would / should be.)
It is just that - Insurance.
Insurance for which an IC does not pay premiums.

That said, I do know there that in some states law makers are trying to figure a way to pay to IC's and employees who's employer is exempt from UI payments (more precisely Unemployment Insurance Premiums.)

BillyMac Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:08am

The Check's In The Mail ...
 
Corona Virus Stimulus Check Calculator

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bob jenkins Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:46pm

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Originally Posted by robbie (Post 1038388)
Just speaking philosophically why would an IC be eligible for UI?
(ps - I'm not saying you believe one would / should be.)
It is just that - Insurance.
Insurance for which an IC does not pay premiums.

That said, I do know there that in some states law makers are trying to figure a way to pay to IC's and employees who's employer is exempt from UI payments (more precisely Unemployment Insurance Premiums.)

I think that's the point I was making.

EDIT: I have now read where the act extends UI benefits to some who would otherwise be ineligible including self-employed and ICs. Don't know exactly how it works (and my guess is that not many do; it's too early).

I did read that (some?) ICs might be eligible for the "small business loan guarantee / forgiveness program" (I forget the exact name) -- but I'm not sure how that would work for us.

JRutledge Fri Mar 27, 2020 02:18pm

Not everyone that is an IC is an official. I am technically one in both officiating and my regular job. I get paid on commission and earnings on things I sold. So on some level that could apply to a lot of other people beyond officiating. I am still trying to figure out how this will apply to my regular job if at all. But either way it goes it appears it does not apply to just officials. The point of all of this is to help stimulate the economy and a lot of people that make money are not W2 employees.

Peace

Indianaref Fri Mar 27, 2020 06:23pm

https://www.naso.org/sports-official...onavirus-bill/


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