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Vid request: UCLA v Arizona - F1
Without about 12:31 to go in the UCLA/Arizona game, a UCLA player runs into an already stretched out arm/hand of an Arizona player. Face to hand contact. Refs review and rule F1. Subsequently, Miller gets tossed.
Interesting play in that it brings up the case of one person simply running into another. Contact is in head/face area. Typically if an arm/hand was extended into the stationary head/face of another player, F1 would be standard ruling. What about the opposite? What about player moving head/face into stationary hand/arm of opponent? |
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Sean Miller is such an a-hole. Still upset that Ed T. Rush allowed himself to get fired behind that unprofessional coach.
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This is a tough one, even on replay. A1 clearly doesn't see B1 and isn't really clearing space or warding him off. But, at the same time, his arm IS in motion so it's not quite as simple as B1 just running into A1's stationary arm/hand.
Curious to see what Tony would think about it after a second look. Unless someone above me told me this play was an offensive foul, I'd be content with a no call. And Sean Miller is a shit. |
Common foul, not excessive or unnecessary IMO. No WIF.
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Intentional Foul ...
NFHS: Contact above the shoulders, no excessive swinging: intentional foul.
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Thanks Indiana. Looks to me as if L had initial call, not Higgins who was C. Could the T have been avoided if the ball was inbounded on the side of the basket where the foul occurred and not on the side closest to Miller? That is a possibility.
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NCAA Men's Major Officiating Concerns
"Post Play This area of the game continues to be a problem due to illegal actions by both the offense and defense. Dislodging by both the offense and defense must not be permitted. In addition, the warding off by the offensive player with a straight arm when he is attempting to post up is a foul when contact occurs. “Swim” moves by either the offense or defense are also fouls. The key to cleaning up post play is to call the first foul, keeping in mind that the defense is permitted to place a forearm on the back of a post player in the post area as long as equal pressure is being applied to the opponent. " Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk |
Contact Above The Shoulders ...
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2. Contact above the shoulders. With a continued emphasis on reducing concussions and decreasing excessive contact situations the committee determined that more guidance is needed for penalizing contact above the shoulders. b. Examples of illegal contact above the shoulders and resulting penalties. 1. Contact with a stationary elbow may be incidental or a common foul. 2. An elbow in movement but not excessive should be an intentional foul. 3. A moving elbow that is excessive can be either an intentional foul or flagrant personal foul. |
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However, Nevadaref's point about NFHS "elbows" is well taken. Do high school officials have to limit these "contact above the shoulders" penalties to only "elbows", or can purpose and intent expand the interpretation to upper arms, forearms, wrists, and hands? The purpose and intent of the Point of Emphasis was "reducing concussions and decreasing excessive contact situations". Nevadaref does make a good point, "elbow" is specifically mentioned three times in the Point of Emphasis. https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP._...=0&w=291&h=164 |
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