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mick Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:14am

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Originally posted by Indy_Ref
You can ref by the interpretation, Mark and I will ref by the rule book.
Indy_Ref,
Interpretations overrule every time.
You know that. Quit teasing.
mick

Indy_Ref Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:20am

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Originally posted by mick
Interpretations overrule every time.

True, but the NF should not post an interpretation that cannot be explicitly supported by the rulebook!

mick Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:38am

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Originally posted by Indy_Ref
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Interpretations overrule every time.

True, but the NF should not post an interpretation that cannot be explicitly supported by the rulebook!

Yabut..., the option of recalling/reprinting all the rulebooks to eliminate/modify a coupla words doesn't make sense when the interpretation route is available. ;)

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:15am

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Originally posted by Indy_Ref
On a side note: My NCAA assigner said that in the NCAA, as long as a player establishes LGP on the PLAYING COURT, he/she can move ANYWHERE to continue playing defense...even if it means moving out-of-bounds. [/B][/QUOTE]One last question,even though we've beaten this to death:

What do think your NCAA assignor would say if you told him that you <b>would not</b> follow his interpretation above because you personally thought that it was wrong?




gazou Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:53am


Can you tell me if there's a similar interpretation concerning the out of bounds defender in the FIBA rules?

Thanks

Indy_Ref Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:07pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Indy_Ref
On a side note: My NCAA assigner said that in the NCAA, as long as a player establishes LGP on the PLAYING COURT, he/she can move ANYWHERE to continue playing defense...even if it means moving out-of-bounds.

One last question,even though we've beaten this to death:

What do think your NCAA assignor would say if you told him that you <b>would not</b> follow his interpretation above because you personally thought that it was wrong?
[/B][/QUOTE]

I'm guessing he would probably say, "Darn, can't fit you into my schedule this season. We'll try again next year."

;)

Indy_Ref Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:09pm

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Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Indy_Ref
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Interpretations overrule every time.

True, but the NF should not post an interpretation that cannot be explicitly supported by the rulebook!

Yabut..., the option of recalling/reprinting all the rulebooks to eliminate/modify a coupla words doesn't make sense when the interpretation route is available. ;)

Yes, but I also noticed a place at the top of the interpretation page that says something like:

Printing errors and corrections...

And after each interpretation situation, it says Ruling...

I would imagine they could correct the printing errors in one of these places?

mick Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:18pm

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Originally posted by Indy_Ref
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Indy_Ref
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Interpretations overrule every time.

True, but the NF should not post an interpretation that cannot be explicitly supported by the rulebook!

Yabut..., the option of recalling/reprinting all the rulebooks to eliminate/modify a coupla words doesn't make sense when the interpretation route is available. ;)

Yes, but I also noticed a place at the top of the interpretation page that says something like:

Printing errors and corrections...

And after each interpretation situation, it says Ruling...

I would imagine they could correct the printing errors in one of these places?

But, Indy_Ref, wouldn't that make it too easy? :)
mick

Indy_Ref Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:39pm

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by mick
But, Indy_Ref, wouldn't that make it too easy? :)
mick

Probably...and then this forum might die out...

we don't want that!

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:45pm

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Originally posted by Indy_Ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Indy_Ref
On a side note: My NCAA assigner said that in the NCAA, as long as a player establishes LGP on the PLAYING COURT, he/she can move ANYWHERE to continue playing defense...even if it means moving out-of-bounds.

One last question,even though we've beaten this to death:

What do think your NCAA assignor would say if you told him that you <b>would not</b> follow his interpretation above because you personally thought that it was wrong?

I'm guessing he would probably say, "Darn, can't fit you into my schedule this season. We'll try again next year."

[/B][/QUOTE]I completely agree with that.

Gee, I wonder if high school assignors work the same way with refs that won't follow approved rules interpretations? :D

Indy_Ref Wed Oct 22, 2003 01:03pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
I completely agree with that.

Gee, I wonder if high school assignors work the same way with refs that won't follow approved rules interpretations? :D

JR,

The only thing missing from your last nana-nana, doo-doo post was...

"When in Rome,..."

By the way, there are very FEW high school assigners here in Indiana. AD's & coaches assign most of the games...and basically run everything in terms of officiating.

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 22, 2003 01:58pm

Indy, you're right. That was my last post

Jay R Wed Oct 22, 2003 02:12pm

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Originally posted by gazou

Can you tell me if there's a similar interpretation concerning the out of bounds defender in the FIBA rules?

Thanks

No there is not.

Tim Roden Thu Oct 23, 2003 03:16pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Indy_Ref
On a side note: My NCAA assigner said that in the NCAA, as long as a player establishes LGP on the PLAYING COURT, he/she can move ANYWHERE to continue playing defense...even if it means moving out-of-bounds.

One last question,even though we've beaten this to death:

What do think your NCAA assignor would say if you told him that you <b>would not</b> follow his interpretation above because you personally thought that it was wrong?



[/B][/QUOTE]
Last I checked. The NCAA rule book and the NFHS rule book are two separate books. In a college game I would use his interpretation. For a HS game I would follow my state interpreters interpretation.

BTW. The college rules committee is almost all coaches where the HS committe is a good mix of coaches and officials.

Indy_Ref Thu Oct 23, 2003 03:43pm

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Originally posted by Tim Roden
BTW. The college rules committee is almost all coaches where the HS committe is a good mix of coaches and officials.
Hmmm...wonder which one of those facts is a more positive thing?


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