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CallMeMrRef Mon Nov 18, 2019 03:32pm

Case Book 4.19.3 Sit E
 
Is this just a badly worded case book play, or are the fouls different for the offense and defense in this situation?

*4.19.3 SITUATION E:

A1 is dribbling in the frontcourt. A3 and B4 are in the free-throw lane. (a) A3 throws B4 to the floor; (b) B4 throws A3 to the floor.

RULING: In (a), illegal and in (b), intentional foul due to excessive contact while the ball is live. (4-19-3d)

Raymond Mon Nov 18, 2019 04:08pm

Wow, the case book actually says that? :eek:

bob jenkins Mon Nov 18, 2019 04:17pm

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1035387)
Wow, the case book actually says that? :eek:

Yep.

I just laughed and crossed it out when I came across it in my review.

Freddy Mon Nov 18, 2019 04:24pm

That long-standing error would be "Low Hanging Fruit" for the NFHS to pick, it would seem. Been there for years. And years.

ilyazhito Mon Nov 18, 2019 06:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CallMeMrRef (Post 1035384)
Is this just a badly worded case book play, or are the fouls different for the offense and defense in this situation?

*4.19.3 SITUATION E:

A1 is dribbling in the frontcourt. A3 and B4 are in the free-throw lane. (a) A3 throws B4 to the floor; (b) B4 throws A3 to the floor.

RULING: In (a), illegal and in (b), intentional foul due to excessive contact while the ball is live. (4-19-3d)

That's an intentional foul any day of the week.

BillyMac Mon Nov 18, 2019 08:01pm

Not A Common Foul ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1035396)
That's an intentional foul any day of the week.

… and not a team control foul because an intentional foul is not a common foul and a team control foul must be a common foul.

ilyazhito Mon Nov 18, 2019 08:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1035397)
… and not a team control foul because an intentional foul is not a common foul and a team control foul must be a common foul.

Indeed. That is why we shoot free throws on intentional fouls committed by the offense, because intentional fouls carry their own penalty.


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