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Old Tue Nov 05, 2019, 05:51pm
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Members of my local IAABO board have to take a locally generated twenty-five question Mechanics Exam.

Here was the first question:

1) The referee will summon the visiting team head coach and captains while the umpire will summon the home team head coach and captains for the pregame meeting. Is this correct? No 13-B-1-C, D

I answered "Yes", because that's the way, and the only way, that we've been doing it for forty years.

And I got it wrong, here's the citation:

2019-20 IAABO Mechanics Manual: 13-B-1-C, D: The referee will summon the home and visiting team head coaches. The umpire will summon the home and visiting team captains.

So I checked out last year's IAABO Mechanics Manual:

2018-19 IAABO Mechanics Manual: 11-B-1-C, D: The referee will summon the visiting team’s head coach and captains(s). The umpire will summon the home team’s head coach and captains(s).

As far as I know, this unannounced change wasn't publicized in any recent IAABO publication, nor was it announced at our local board's annual interpretation meeting (new rules, Points of Emphasis, etc.).

Anybody know the story behind this unannounced change ?
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Old Wed Nov 06, 2019, 08:38am
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Anybody know the story behind this unannounced change ?
Too many officials were getting 100% on the exam and IAABO wanted fewer perfect scores.
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Old Wed Nov 06, 2019, 10:47pm
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Members of my local IAABO board have to take a locally generated twenty-five question Mechanics Exam.

Here was the first question:

1) The referee will summon the visiting team head coach and captains while the umpire will summon the home team head coach and captains for the pregame meeting. Is this correct? No 13-B-1-C, D

I answered "Yes", because that's the way, and the only way, that we've been doing it for forty years.

And I got it wrong, here's the citation:

2019-20 IAABO Mechanics Manual: 13-B-1-C, D: The referee will summon the home and visiting team head coaches. The umpire will summon the home and visiting team captains.

So I checked out last year's IAABO Mechanics Manual:

2018-19 IAABO Mechanics Manual: 11-B-1-C, D: The referee will summon the visiting team’s head coach and captains(s). The umpire will summon the home team’s head coach and captains(s).

As far as I know, this unannounced change wasn't publicized in any recent IAABO publication, nor was it announced at our local board's annual interpretation meeting (new rules, Points of Emphasis, etc.).

Anybody know the story behind this unannounced change ?

Bill:

I would suggest that you contact Roger MacTavish, Chairman of the IAABO Rules Examination Committee.

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Old Thu Nov 07, 2019, 11:08am
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I would suggest that you contact Roger MacTavish, Chairman of the IAABO Rules Examination Committee.
I believe that this was a locally produced mechanics exam not the IAABO Refresher Exam.
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Old Sat Nov 09, 2019, 07:43am
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News to me too. Massachusetts just held its annual state interpretation clinic that was attended by IAABO’s new executive director and one of the national rules coordinators and I don’t recall this being mentioned. T.J. Halliday is primarily responsible for editing the mechanics manual. Contact me privately and I’ll give you his email address.
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Old Sat Nov 09, 2019, 06:06pm
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News to me too. Massachusetts just held its annual state interpretation clinic that was attended by IAABO’s new executive director and one of the national rules coordinators and I don’t recall this being mentioned. T.J. Halliday is primarily responsible for editing the mechanics manual. Contact me privately and I’ll give you his email address.
Already got it. I'll see what transpires at our November meeting in a few weeks and report back.
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Old Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:35am
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Does anyone else hate these kind of questions? The ones that REALLY have nothing to do with the game. Let's say the R summons the wrong team or captains or whatever....... does anyone care?
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Old Mon Nov 11, 2019, 11:00am
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Members of my local IAABO board have to take a locally generated twenty-five question Mechanics Exam.

Here was the first question:

1) The referee will summon the visiting team head coach and captains while the umpire will summon the home team head coach and captains for the pregame meeting. Is this correct? No 13-B-1-C, D

I answered "Yes", because that's the way, and the only way, that we've been doing it for forty years.

And I got it wrong, here's the citation:

2019-20 IAABO Mechanics Manual: 13-B-1-C, D: The referee will summon the home and visiting team head coaches. The umpire will summon the home and visiting team captains.

So I checked out last year's IAABO Mechanics Manual:

2018-19 IAABO Mechanics Manual: 11-B-1-C, D: The referee will summon the visiting team’s head coach and captains(s). The umpire will summon the home team’s head coach and captains(s).

As far as I know, this unannounced change wasn't publicized in any recent IAABO publication, nor was it announced at our local board's annual interpretation meeting (new rules, Points of Emphasis, etc.).

Anybody know the story behind this unannounced change ?
This is relevant for a Crew of Two only, because in a Crew of Three, the U1 summons home captains, U2 summons the visiting captains, and the Referee summons the head coaches, once he is done with his spiel at the table.
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Old Mon Nov 11, 2019, 11:02am
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... Crew of Three, the U1 summons home captains, U2 summons the visiting captains, and the Referee summons the head coaches, once he is done with his spiel at the table.
Boring. C'mon, live dangerously, change it up. Be a rebel.
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Old Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:04pm
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Boring. C'mon, live dangerously, change it up. Be a rebel.
I was highlighting why the question was irrelevant. Most of the basketball world uses 3-person crews. The PSAL switched to 3 this season for Class AA basketball (the larger schools).
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:02pm
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I was highlighting why the question was irrelevant. Most of the basketball world uses 3-person crews. The PSAL switched to 3 this season for Class AA basketball (the larger schools).
Is that the same league that infamously played their quarterfinals with the college 3pt line at St. John’s back in 2012?
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2019, 10:12pm
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More likely the CHSAA (the New York Catholic school league). Maybe the PSAL officials incorrectly applied the college 3-point line. Don't know for sure.
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2019, 09:56am
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Crew of Three, the U1 summons home captains, U2 summons the visiting captains, and the Referee summons the head coaches, once he is done with his spiel at the table.
Maybe this is related to the reason for the change, to make the two person mechanic similar to the three person mechanic.

2019-20 IAABO Mechanics Manual: 13-B-1-C, D: The referee will summon the home and visiting team head coaches. The umpire will summon the home and visiting team captains.

With the 2019-20 change, in both the two person and the three person mechanic, the referee will summon the home and visiting team head coaches.

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