And We Complain About Being Fashion Police!

I don’t understand why a team of that calibre would somehow not have their alternate jerseys with them at all times. It can’t be that much of a space concern.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I don’t understand why a team of that calibre would somehow not have their alternate jerseys with them at all times. It can’t be that much of a space concern.

I agree with you 100%.

MTD, Sr.

[bucky]

A facility like that and there were not any other white jerseys? There needs to be a review of accommodations as far as the rule is concerned. That's one thing about NFHS, find some garbage shirt left in the local locker room to use as spirit of the game precludes anything else.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bucky

A facility like that and there were not any other white jerseys? There needs to be a review of accommodations as far as the rule is concerned. That's one thing about NFHS, find some garbage shirt left in the local locker room to use as spirit of the game precludes anything else.

For NFHS, the team wouldn’t forfeit. The coach would simply take a technical foul for allowing the illegal uniforms. Two FTs would be awarded and game would go on.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

For NFHS, the team wouldn’t forfeit. The coach would simply take a technical foul for allowing the illegal uniforms. Two FTs would be awarded and game would go on.

Good point Nevadaref.

[Stat-Man]

For anyone that can't view the original link for any reason, here is an archive copy:

Pan American Games: Argentina wears wrong uniform, forfeits game

I can see how this rule might work for elite/pro teams that play under FIBA rules, but I'm trying to figure out why Argentina didn't have their white uniforms with them . Most teams I've known tell their players to always have both sets of uniforms just in case.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

For NFHS, the team wouldn’t forfeit. The coach would simply take a technical foul for allowing the illegal uniforms. Two FTs would be awarded and game would go on.

That is the case whereby jersey colors are different enough. In the case of 2 teams having the same colored jerseys, I disagree. (wasn't that what happened in OP? I wasn't gonna wait for the page to reload again with all the ads). The intent of contrasting jerseys is to distinguish opponents. Without that ability, how could the game be officiated? Ergo, we have BM's remark. With hope, the home team could scramble to switch jerseys. Surely they would have pinnies, etc.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bucky

That is the case whereby jersey colors are different enough. In the case of 2 teams having the same colored jerseys ... The intent of contrasting jerseys is to distinguish opponents. Without that ability, how could the game be officiated?

NFHS high school game. No rule that says it's a forfeit. As Nevadaref pointed out, the coach would simply take the technical foul for the illegal uniforms. Two FTs would be awarded.

After that, we'd figure it out.

Home team gets their reversible practice jerseys from the locker room. Maybe different color numbers on the jerseys (I've worked Catholic middle school games like this, both dark blue jerseys, one team white numbers, other team gold numbers, white versus gold). One team wears jersey inside out. Giant taped X's on jerseys of one team. Shirts versus skins. Players raise hands for fouls (like in ancient times).

Get the coaches, athletic director (site manager) together, possibly with my assignment commissioner on the phone, and we'd figure it out. Maybe it won't be perfect, but we'd figure it out enough for there to be a game that night.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bucky

That is the case whereby jersey colors are different enough. In the case of 2 teams having the same colored jerseys, I disagree. .

What NFHS supports your disagreement? You have no basis for a forfeit.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You have no basis for a forfeit.

Agree. The penalty for illegal uniforms is spelled out in the book.

It may be difficult to officiate and, if there is a close OOB play where it is hard to tell which team hit it last, I just might default to the team that wore the correct jerseys, but it isn't going to be a forfeit.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What NFHS supports your disagreement? You have no basis for a forfeit.

2-5-4: The referee: May declare the game a forfeit when conditions warrant.
3-1-1-Note: When there is only one player participating for a team, the
team shall forfeit the game, unless the referee believes that team has an
opportunity to win the game.
5-4-1: The referee shall forfeit the game if a team refuses to play after
being instructed to do so by any official. The referee may also forfeit a
game if any player, team member, bench personnel or coach fails to comply
with any technical-foul penalty, or repeatedly commits technical-foul
infractions or other acts which make a travesty of the game. If the team to
which the game is forfeited is ahead, the score at the time of forfeiture shall
stand. If this team is not ahead, the score shall be recorded as 2-0 in its
favor.
10-5-Penalty Note: Failure to comply with the rules of ejection may result in the game being forfeited.
10-6-Penalty Note: Failure to comply with the rules of ejection may result in the game being forfeited.

3.1.1 SITUATION: After six players have been disqualified, Team A has only four who are eligible to continue in the game as players. In a gesture of fair play, the coach of Team B indicates a desire to withdraw a player so that each team will have four players on the court. RULING: This is not permissible. Team B must have five players participating as long as it has that number available. If no substitute is available, a team must continue with fewer than five players. When only one player remains to participate, that team shall forfeit the game unless the referee believes this team still has an opportunity to win the game.

5.4.1 SITUATION A: A1 commits his/her fifth personal foul. Both the head coach and player are properly notified. Team A has substitutes available but the head coach from Team A does not send a substitute to the table within the 20-second time limit. The Team A head coach is assessed a technical foul. The head coach still does not send a substitute to the table. RULING: The official should forfeit the contest to the opposing team for the head coach delaying the contest and attempting to make a travesty of the game. COMMENT: The referee may forfeit a game if any player, team member, bench personnel or coach fails to comply with any technical foul penalty.

5.4.1 SITUATION B: The covering official rules a double foul on the post player and opponent after both push and shove each other. It is the fifth foul on each player. Some spectators in the crowd react vocally in a negative manner while others throw paper cups, etc., on the floor. The entire crowd seems to be in a hostile mood. What should the officials do? RULING: The officials must ask game -management or home management to control the spectators. The officials have authority to charge a technical foul(s) if it can be determined which team’s spectators are involved. However, much discretion is necessary in this case and the officials must be aware that a technical foul(s) on spectators usually leads to even more problems. COMMENT: The game should not be forfeited to either team because of the action of spectators. If game or home management cannot restore order by removal or other means, the officials are authorized to suspend play. The game would then be continued from the point of interruption, unless the teams agree to terminate the game with the existing score, or there are conference, league or state association rules which apply.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What NFHS supports your disagreement? You have no basis for a forfeit.

I did not indicate that they would forfeit. I disagreed with your sentiment that the coach would simply take a T and the game would continue. If there are 2 teams with same-colored jerseys, more will need to be done to continue. No one, and I mean no one, would just give T and then start the game. Then you and others go on to describe all kinds of changes to be made before continuing the game. Well, no kidding, then you do not have the original problem do you? one even suggested bending the rules to accommodate, lol. Follow the uniform rules to the letter as written but then not adjudicate accordingly because of it. That's a laugh.

And shirts and skins? Did someone really legitimately suggest that? Have fun with the lawsuit.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

For NFHS, the team wouldn’t forfeit. The coach would simply take a technical foul for allowing the illegal uniforms. Two FTs would be awarded and game would go on.

3-4-1-C: The torso color shall be white for the home team and a contrasting
dark color for the visiting team.
10-6-4: The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate
while wearing an illegal uniform (see 3-4).

3.4.1 SITUATION A: The competing teams in a tournament setting enter the court for warm-ups both wearing dark jerseys. The tournament manager indicates that (a) Team A was aware of the home-team designation and failed to comply with wearing the required white jersey; (b) neither team was notified of the proper home/away designation. However, Team B has both sets of jerseys available. RULING: In (a), the Team A head coach receives a direct technical foul. The game starts with two free throws followed by a division line throw-in awarded to Team B and loss of the coaching box for the Team A head coach for the remainder of the game. In (b), Team B should be given ample time to change into its white uniforms. No penalties are assessed. (10-5-4)