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rpirtle Fri Oct 17, 2003 07:06pm

In TX we have officiating chapters that can negotiate with the school districts we service as to whether we will use three officials or two. My chapter covers Ft. Worth and the surrounding counties. At this time we work most 4A and 5A (largest schools) with 3 officials. The the smaller schools we still use 2 officials. Playoffs for 4A and 5A schools are always done with 3 officials.

BktBallRef Fri Oct 17, 2003 09:24pm

I guess I'm by myself.

In the great state of North Carolina, ALL VARSITY CONTESTS ARE REQUIRED to be worked by 3 officials. No ifs, ands, or buts! :D

JeffTheRef Sat Oct 18, 2003 02:10am

And what is the pay scale???????
 
I'd love to hear about that. For 2-person and 3-person crews.

Schmidt MJ Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:29am

In Kansas I believe at least 75% of the leagues use 3-man for the regular season. For the post-season, 3-man is required for all games regardless of class (1A thru 6A). Two years ago my games were about half 2-man and half 3-man. Last year was about 75% 3-man, this year I've only got one varsity date that's 2-man, the rest are all 3-man all season long.

BOBBYMO Sat Oct 18, 2003 06:38pm

Way behind
 
Nebraska is still 2-person
Omaha is going to try 3-person for their class A (Big school) Holliday tourny this season.

BktBallRef Sat Oct 18, 2003 07:24pm

Re: And what is the pay scale???????
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JeffTheRef
I'd love to hear about that. For 2-person and 3-person crews.
We normally officiate a girls/boys doubleheader, which pays $70.

If we work one game, it's $50. One tournament or playoff game is $60.

JRutledge Sat Oct 18, 2003 08:09pm

Re: And what is the pay scale???????
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JeffTheRef
I'd love to hear about that. For 2-person and 3-person crews.
There is no pay scale. Whatever the conferences and schools want to pay. It varies too much.

Peace

dblref Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:10pm

My association (in northern VA) uses 3-person for all varsity contests. I understand that a couple of the smaller associations use 2-person. A couple of years ago, 2 conferences decided they did not want to pay for 3 officials and the contracted with a smaller association for 2 officicals. I was told last week that the 2 conferences decided the quality of officiating was not very good and will be signing with us when the current contract is up.

We pay $45 for regular season, $54 for post-season, and $60 for regionals.

LSams Sun Oct 19, 2003 06:14pm

Florida--

Each school is required to have a minimum of 3 home games for each varsity team (boys and girls) officiated by a crew of 3.

Most bigger schools use 3 more often. Our association tells the schools that when 3 person crews are available, 3 person crews will be assigned. I worked about 80% 3-person last season.

All post-season games (including districts) are 3-person.

Pay scale -- varsity 2-person - $40. varsity 3-person - $35.


williebfree Sun Oct 19, 2003 08:00pm

WI is 2-whistle crews.
 
I have heard that the Metro Milwaukee area conferences are going with 3-whistle, but not a confirmed rumor.

I am sure the primary reason for 2-whistle crews is $$$ (budget). Just as I can be confident that we will not see the shot clock any time in the near future.

Pay scale: Usually $50/game and mileage for one driver.

oc Sun Oct 19, 2003 08:30pm

American military schools/large International schools in Japan. All HS league games 3 refs.

some smaller international schools non-league games 2 refs.

3 refs jv $37, V $43 a game. 2 refs jv $45, V $55.-plus transportation.



Tim Roden Sun Oct 19, 2003 09:55pm

Texas it is a coaches choice. State playoffs are three man. 95% of games in my area are two man. Money and lack of officials.

Rich Mon Oct 20, 2003 01:56am

Re: WI is 2-whistle crews.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by williebfree
I have heard that the Metro Milwaukee area conferences are going with 3-whistle, but not a confirmed rumor.

I am sure the primary reason for 2-whistle crews is $$$ (budget). Just as I can be confident that we will not see the shot clock any time in the near future.

Pay scale: Usually $50/game and mileage for one driver.

Where from, Willie?

I'm in the Madison area. I work 2-whistle in WI for $50-$55/game with some conferences paying up to $30 mileage. I work 3-whistle in IL for about $54/game no mileage.

Rich

tomegun Mon Oct 20, 2003 07:27am

Indy-ref, hold on for one minute. The reason why I said I would like to do a game in Richmond is because I went to Richmond High School. Although New Castle and Anderson have nice gyms I would want to be in the Tiernan Center! Deep down inside I will always be a Red Devil. My mom and dad, 3 sisters, 1 brother, 1 neice, 1 nephew and countless aunts, uncles and cousins all graduated from Richmond. You will be able to tell how old I am but I was in school both of the years we played Marion in the state finals during their 3 year run. I graduated with Woody Austin who most people don't know won Mr. Basketball over Shawn Kemp! Also, we lost 2 games that year and were ranked as high as 14 nationally! Hoosier Hysteria bit us in the but on both of those losses, Jay County at the buzzer from 3 and Woody shot 6 for 30 in the Semi-State. A few years after I graduated we won it all! Some people think Indiana Basketball is a bunch of hype. It IS in our blood!

Indy_Ref Mon Oct 20, 2003 09:31am

Quote:

Originally posted by tomegun
Indy-ref, hold on for one minute. The reason why I said I would like to do a game in Richmond is because I went to Richmond High School. Although New Castle and Anderson have nice gyms I would want to be in the Tiernan Center! Deep down inside I will always be a Red Devil. My mom and dad, 3 sisters, 1 brother, 1 neice, 1 nephew and countless aunts, uncles and cousins all graduated from Richmond. You will be able to tell how old I am but I was in school both of the years we played Marion in the state finals during their 3 year run. I graduated with Woody Austin who most people don't know won Mr. Basketball over Shawn Kemp! Also, we lost 2 games that year and were ranked as high as 14 nationally! Hoosier Hysteria bit us in the but on both of those losses, Jay County at the buzzer from 3 and Woody shot 6 for 30 in the Semi-State. A few years after I graduated we won it all! Some people think Indiana Basketball is a bunch of hype. It IS in our blood!
Understood!!....and Ageed!!!!


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