Player out of bounds and returning
Does he need one foot back in, or two? I used to think two.
Then on here a couple years ago was told it takes just one. As I look at the rules and casebook for college, I don't find anything that really spells it out. Only thing relevant I find is in rule book 7.1, that seems to imply that only one foot is needed, but is not explicit. It's pretty close I guess, says player is out of bounds if any part touching out of bounds, and for an airborne player, it is based on where he was last touching. So on the T tech player, if blocks shot, comes down both feet simultaneously, then pulls the out of bounds foot up first when jumping, then then inbounds foot second, and goes up and saves, he is considered inbounds. that isn't what happened, but I guess that analysis is correct Is there other language that makes it more clear? I ask because most people I run into in the game seem to think it's two. And then Gene the rules expert after the T Tech game said it takes 2 feet back in. Then I find this online: https://www.livestrong.com/article/4...ouch-the-ball/ So what is it? |
Something in, nothing out.
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No other reference than NCAA rules 7.1? I agree with you, but it is astonishing that Gene whats his name, the guy put on national TV by the NCAA or whomever for the multi-billion dollar tournament, doesn't understand that. He clearly doesn't.
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Could have mixed up NFL with NCAA. It can happen when you do 1,034,567 games a year between the sports. I would mix up HS and NCAA
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This is a rule that veteran referees know, it only gets confusing when talking heads in the studio start bombarding the world with incorrect information. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk |
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I'm assuming you don't mean (legitimate) officials. |
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Slightly off topic.
After trying twice over the past several years, I've once again submitted a rule change to the NFHS (through my state interscholastic sports governing body) regarding players deliberately out of bounds. This will be the last time that I submit this change. I know when I'm not wanted. Suggested NFHS Rule Change Existing Rules: NFHS 9-3-3: A player shall not leave the court for an unauthorized reason. PENALTY: (Section 3) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation. (See 6-7-9 Exception d) NFHS 10-3-2: A player shall not: Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds. PENALTY: (Section 3) Two free throws plus ball for division-line throw-in. Change 10-3-2 from a technical foul to a violation. Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds should carry the same penalty as leaving the court for an unauthorized reason. Delete: NFHS 10-3-2 Add: NFHS 9-3-3-B: A player shall not purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds. PENALTY: (Section 3) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation. (See 6-7-9 Exception d) |
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I have never called either in a high school game. |
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I was listening live and it sounded to me like Gene corrected himself pretty quickly there.
As someone who's done limited play-by-play/color work, it's not as easy as it looks. |
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I considered calling a technical foul for a "deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds" but decided to just warn to not do it again (middle school game, delayed after inbounding the ball). I believe that a technical foul is too harsh a penalty for the act. Both acts involve going or staying out of bounds to gain an advantage and both should have the same penalty. If the kid delaying after inbounding the ball had only been a violation, I would have called it. A technical foul seemed too harsh, so I decided to just warn. Certainly not a big deal, but every change for the good or to simplify in the rulebook helps a little. |
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To everyone reading, please, oh please, do not ever call this in a MS game. |
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