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thedewed Sat Mar 16, 2019 04:37pm

UT UK 10.9 left
 
Unorthodox, but that's a charge. Whoops

Nevadaref Sat Mar 16, 2019 04:52pm

Blarge with about four minutes left. Trail signaled PC and L went block.
Around two minutes remaining there is a Kentucky drive from the wing and a blocking foul is called. Ugh.

thedewed Sun Mar 17, 2019 03:59am

Yes I remember that one too. Can we get video of both? In earlier one, traffic needs to just signal foul and defer. Under rules, should have been both once he signed. Mine, no one mentioned on broadcast, but defense was actually fortuitously there

Raymond Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:50pm

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Originally Posted by thedewed (Post 1031099)
Unorthodox, but that's a charge. Whoops

I wish the Center had stayed to referee the ball instead of heading down court ahead of the play.

Raymond Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:24pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1031100)
Blarge with about four minutes left. Trail signaled PC and L went block.

It'll be on next season's training video as to why we have to have the discipline to come up with a fist first. One-on-one, still up high in the paint, I want Trail to get first crack at that. (and he would have been right, IMO)


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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1031100)
Around two minutes remaining there is a Kentucky drive from the wing and a blocking foul is called. Ugh.

It was 2:58. That play is about as close as possible for 2 opponents to get to the same spot at the same time. At the point of contact, the defender's knee is outside of his vertical base.

JRutledge Mon Mar 18, 2019 02:21pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1031100)
Blarge with about four minutes left. Trail signaled PC and L went block.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1031100)
Around two minutes remaining there is a Kentucky drive from the wing and a blocking foul is called. Ugh.

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Peace

JRutledge Mon Mar 18, 2019 02:34pm

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Originally Posted by thedewed (Post 1031099)
Unorthodox, but that's a charge. Whoops

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Peace

Nevadaref Mon Mar 18, 2019 03:12pm

Thanks to Jeff for posting these three plays!
1. This is the T’s play to handle. It is a ballhandler and the primary defender from his PCA. The Lead should only get involved if/when a secondary defender comes over or if there is someone that the T can’t see because of the angle of the player’s bodies. The T seems to correctly have a PC foul, although he doesn’t ever give the hand behind the head signal as I thought I saw, but merely waves both of his arms twice while moving towards the division line. He also doesn’t ever put a fist up.

2. This play is more difficult than I thought. The defender’s left leg/knee is sticking out. If the official feels that this is where most of the contact occurs, a blocking foul would be a good decision. I’m not convinced that is the case, and the awkward placement of the defender’s left leg may make it appear that he is moving towards the offensive player at the time of contact, but I don’t believe that he is. My opinion is a PC due to most of the contact being with the torsos.

3. This one is a bit tricky because it may appear to the T that the defender is moving towards the ballhandler. I believe that he stops in time and gets knocked backwards by the offensive player who collected the rebound. I have PC on the Tenn player.

sdoebler Tue Mar 19, 2019 09:38am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1031204)
Thanks to Jeff for posting these three plays!
1. This is the T’s play to handle. It is a ballhandler and the primary defender from his PCA. The Lead should only get involved if/when a secondary defender comes over or if there is someone that the T can’t see because of the angle of the player’s bodies. The T seems to correctly have a PC foul, although he doesn’t ever give the hand behind the head signal as I thought I saw, but merely waves both of his arms twice while moving towards the division line. He also doesn’t ever put a fist up.

2. This play is more difficult than I thought. The defender’s left leg/knee is sticking out. If the official feels that this is where most of the contact occurs, a blocking foul would be a good decision. I’m not convinced that is the case, and the awkward placement of the defender’s left leg may make it appear that he is moving towards the offensive player at the time of contact, but I don’t believe that he is. My opinion is a PC due to most of the contact being with the torsos.

3. This one is a bit tricky because it may appear to the T that the defender is moving towards the ballhandler. I believe that he stops in time and gets knocked backwards by the offensive player who collected the rebound. I have PC on the Tenn player.

Agree with most of this only thing that I would say on #2 is I think that the knee moving forward does effect the shooter but it is a close play.


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