PC Foul called - Lowering the shoulder or not LGP (Video)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

PC Foul called - Lowering the shoulder or not LGP

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

The title inferred a lowering of the shoulder (which implies a charge and responsibility on the offense regardless of LGP),

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I've yet to see "lowering the shoulder" as a reason for a foul in any rulebook. Every person who is running has lowered his/her shoulder to some degree.

Over many years, why have we seen many, many references to "lowering the shoulder" here on the Forum in reference to player control charging fouls?

Did I miss something when I first learned high school rules?

I remember talking about legal guarding position, feet, verticality, movement, airborne players, torsos, ducking, etc., but I don't remember discussing lowering shoulders (other than getting head and shoulders past the defender).

Was I absent that day?

Was it "Senior Skip Day"?

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Over many years, why have we seen many, many references to "lowering the shoulder" here on the Forum in reference to player control charging fouls?



Did I miss something when I first learned high school rules?



Was I absent that day?



Was it "Senior Skip Day"?

I’m with you Billy but that’s why I said lowering the shoulder (in the context of the OP) implies a charge. I never said it guarantees it, for as you correctly state there is no specific rules coverage for lowering of the shoulder.

Looks like as a forum we’re professionally split on who had greater responsibility for the contact and whether LGP requirements were met. It was a close play, so I guess that’s ok.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

... there is no specific rules coverage for lowering of the shoulder.

Could it be some colloquial rule of thumb to help officials make a correct block/charge call?

If so, can it be shared with the rest of us, I've never heard about it in my high school games here in my little corner of Connecticut?

[bucky]

Should have been a no call.

[JRutledge]

Play #2: Another one


Peace

[bob jenkins]

PC on both. The second is easier.

[bucky]

Easy PC foul in second video.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Play #2: Another one


Peace

I'm biased, since I have family that works at UM, and was born in AA, but this was a PC foul.