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Old Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:59pm
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If you are aware of the clock at that time of the game, you should know where the clock is on any whistle. It was obvious the call came before the clock ran out. At the college level without a monitor, that is something that would get you in trouble if you allowed the time to just run out in that very situation.

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My apologies. I should have been more clear. In a high school game, no monitor, not worrying if I am going to get into trouble, I am not putting time back on the clock.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:40pm
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My apologies. I should have been more clear. In a high school game, no monitor, not worrying if I am going to get into trouble, I am not putting time back on the clock.
Let me be clear as well. It would not have mattered to me what level the game was without a monitor. I would have treated it the same. If I know a foul is before the horn, I am putting time back on the clock. It might not have been that accurate, but it would have been something.

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Old Sat Feb 23, 2019, 11:03pm
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Let me be clear as well. It would not have mattered to me what level the game was without a monitor. I would have treated it the same. If I know a foul is before the horn, I am putting time back on the clock. It might not have been that accurate, but it would have been something.

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There is about 0.5 seconds left when there is a whistle. How do you decide if there is 0.5 or 0.3 seconds without a replay device?
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Old Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:51am
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There is about 0.5 seconds left when there is a whistle. How do you decide if there is 0.5 or 0.3 seconds without a replay device?
Easy you look at the clock when the whistle was blown and you know what that time was. If anything you know there is a gap between the whistle and the horn. I know for me I constantly watch the clock. Have to in shot clock games and do in high school games to know things are being done correctly.

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Old Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:08am
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Correct call by the C. Lead was straight lined by both plyers' body position, and the offensive player turned towards C, so C would have a better look than T. I would put 1.5 back on the clock, because that is when the foul was called.
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Old Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:24am
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Easy you look at the clock when the whistle was blown and you know what that time was. If anything you know there is a gap between the whistle and the horn. I know for me I constantly watch the clock. Have to in shot clock games and do in high school games to know things are being done correctly.

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The signal comes with approximately 0.5 seconds. By the time I look at the clock, because I didn't bail on the play, it will be 0.00.
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The signal comes with approximately 0.5 seconds. By the time I look at the clock, because I didn't bail on the play, it will be 0.00.
OK. The foul took place before the clock ran out. I am putting something on the clock in that situation. I am not shooting FTs with zeros on the clock and no one on the lane.

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Old Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:59am
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OK. The foul took place before the clock ran out. I am putting something on the clock in that situation. I am not shooting FTs with zeros on the clock and no one on the lane.

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Totally hypothetical situation.

No official count (no one had a closely guarded count). No look at the clock with time showing (the whistle was so close to the buzzer that it was impossible). No replay device. How do you decide how much time to put up?
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The signal comes with approximately 0.5 seconds. By the time I look at the clock, because I didn't bail on the play, it will be 0.00.


You speak as though you had no partner(s) who could back you up. If I’m off ball in this situation and hear a whistle, I immediately look at the clock. Almost reflexively.


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Old Sun Feb 24, 2019, 03:43am
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Let me be clear as well. It would not have mattered to me what level the game was without a monitor. I would have treated it the same. If I know a foul is before the horn, I am putting time back on the clock. It might not have been that accurate, but it would have been something.

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Agree. You have to have a sense of time here. Always have a count in your head as the time approaches 0. You really must put time back. To not do so because there is no monitor is not a good reason.
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