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xyrph Wed Feb 06, 2019 04:44pm

Block or Charge (Video)
 
Please make your call.

https://youtu.be/v6BGgWMK6nQ


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Hard Wed Feb 06, 2019 04:56pm

I've got a charge - shoulder to chest

deecee Wed Feb 06, 2019 05:25pm

Pc.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Feb 06, 2019 06:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by xyrph (Post 1029902)
Please make your call.

https://youtu.be/v6BGgWMK6nQ


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That is a Charge all the time every time!

MTD, Sr.

JRutledge Wed Feb 06, 2019 06:35pm

Charge.

Peace

Kansas Ref Wed Feb 06, 2019 07:18pm

PCF here--- no slo mo required to adjudicate.
The announcer sounded like Bill Walton [of the "conference of champions" fame] when providing the rationale "feet weren't set, feet weren't set"---and also sounds like many coaches who hold this belief/misconception. Alas, should I expect anything different?

Pantherdreams Wed Feb 06, 2019 08:33pm

Looks like a PC to me.

Would like to know what the official thought he saw or the rationale behind the call.

bucky Wed Feb 06, 2019 09:10pm

Make the call? The play calls itself......PC.

Freddy Wed Feb 06, 2019 09:41pm

Two-Fists 'Arisin'
 
There is a dynamic that occurs when an official innately reacts with the impulsive, personally patterned "two-fists rising" motion upon the immediate cranial detection of something needing to be called, followed by the muscular reaction of a downward pounding of the hips. That habitual reaction typically results in a default blocking call. Even when it's actually a charge. The beginning decides what the end is. The habitual determines the outcome.
All too common. That's what happened here. The habit led to the call.

AremRed Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:15pm

And here I thought announcers as a whole were getting better with the rules. SMH :confused:

ODog Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:31pm

PC.

Had one just like it last night.
Coach: "But the defender was sliding across the lane the whole time."

Coaches, do you teach your players to play defense standing like statues?! No? Then don't expect the other team to either.

Camron Rust Thu Feb 07, 2019 04:53am

LGP easily established...moved obliquely away. Not much to look at...PC all day.

Kansas Ref Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 1029917)
There is a dynamic that occurs when an official innately reacts with the impulsive, personally patterned "two-fists rising" motion upon the immediate cranial detection of something needing to be called, followed by the muscular reaction of a downward pounding of the hips. That habitual reaction typically results in a default blocking call. Even when it's actually a charge. The beginning decides what the end is. The habitual determines the outcome.
All too common. That's what happened here. The habit led to the call.

*Interesting neurophysiological explanation Freddy, both informative and entertaining.

Could that particular official have helped themselves by: first holding up a closed fist [to signal a foul is going to be called], then that would've afforded him/her a ''moment of pause" to "decide" how to adjudicate/quickly replay in his/her mind, THEN signalling their decision [block or charge]? Or would the lack of an instantaneous decision somehow led the stakeholders (player/coaches) to doubt the certainty of the call?
Just askin...

ilyazhito Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:54pm

Player control foul, if not for LGP being obtained (which the defender did, then for the stiff-arm (forearm shove) done by the offensive player. CI.

Freddy Thu Feb 07, 2019 01:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 1029953)
*Interesting neurophysiological explanation Freddy, both informative and entertaining.

Could that particular official have helped themselves by: first holding up a closed fist [to signal a foul is going to be called], then that would've afforded him/her a ''moment of pause" to "decide" how to adjudicate/quickly replay in his/her mind, THEN signalling their decision [block or charge]? Or would the lack of an instantaneous decision somehow led the stakeholders (player/coaches) to doubt the certainty of the call?
Just askin...

Here's a one-minute audio clip featuring J.D. Collins advising his officials to give a good "Stop the Clock" signal prior to the preliminary signal on site. It's at about the 30 second mark. Simple, but good advise for NFHS officials, too. Collins: Stop the Clock Signal Mandatory


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