What is the Remedy When Tipoff is in Wrong Direction.?
I was at two separate games this week where the officials started the Tipoff in the wrong direction and at each game about twenty seconds in they stopped the game and instructed players which way to go and continued on with the game without doing another tipoff... instead inbounding from the sidelines.
Neither game had scored any points yet, but I am really curious what happens in this situation when there are goals scored before they realize the error. To be clear, the referee throwing the ball up for the tipoff instructed the teams to go the wrong way... in both of these games. How is this supposed to be fixed? Should the game be restarted? |
5.2.1 SITUATION F:
During the pregame practice period, the visiting team properly uses the east goal and the home team the west goal. The officials, by mistake, allow the jumpers to face the wrong direction to start the game. Several baskets are scored before it is recognized that both teams are throwing the ball into the opponent's basket. RULING: All points scored count as if the teams had gone the right direction and scored in their own basket. Once the mistake is recognized, play shall continue with each team attempting to score in its own basket. (4-5-4) |
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Roy "Wrong Way" Riegels ...
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Several Minutes, And Several Baskets, By Both Teams ...
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I know what I would do using common sense and fairness, but what would we do by the book? If discovered within seconds (warmup the correct way, are instructed by the officials to go the correct way, and line up for the jump ball the correct way, no backcourt) with only one basket scored, I'm counting the basket for the team whose basket the ball entered. But several minutes, and several baskets, by both teams? |
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However, for high school (and college) basketball, all activity counts, and teams will be lined up in the correct direction, even if it means that 1 team will have an end line throw-in after a score into its proper frontcourt. |
No More Jump Balls ...
Oh, I almost forgot.
No more jump balls. Start the game by giving the ball to the visitors at the division line opposite the table and use the alternating possession arrow after that, even to start any overtimes. Also, a preemptive post to Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: "Shut up". |
So this is discovered after Team A scores a basket. Do you give the ball to Team B on the end line nearest to the basket they are trying to score for a spot throw in or do you march them to the other end in which they can run along the end line?
Edit: I see ilyazhito answered my question, is there rule reference? |
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Does 4-5-4 cover the situation where a single player gets discombobulated and scores in the wrong basket, especially off the jump ball? Quote:
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BillyMac, I am of the opposite opinion, no AP arrow. If the officials, or the table cannot keep track of possessions correctly,
it will result in teams gaining unmerited possessions (and possibly undeserved points of the unmerited possessions). This is far more dangerous than teams lining up incorrectly, because teams in the wrong direction can be corrected at any time in the game, but an AP error can only be corrected before the throw-in ends. A jump ball, on the other hand, is a random process that does not depend on mechanical gadgets and people's memories. This is why I would rather have jump balls for all cases of disputed possessions. |
Birds Of A Feather Flock Together ...
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Completely agree with this, it's a pointless exercise that is only done for basketball purists and those "magical" NCAA tournament shots from overhead. And while I have never seen an actual injury, I've heard plenty of stories about officials getting whacked during the process, or players coming down on an opponent's foot, and everything in between. Give the visiting team the ball to start the game and let's go from there, it would simplify a number of things. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngiu...has_verified=1 Where's the how to embed video thread? |
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He had just worked a D2 game at Southern Indiana (when John Adams was a supervisor). As soon as he got in his car to start his drive back to Belleville, IL he turned on his radio to listen to the Evansville game, and just in time for the opening tip. The tossing official got clocked in the head and couldn't proceed. My friend immediately started driving toward Evansville while calling Adams. After some consultations between the powers that be (Adams, both ADs) my friend was allowed to officiate the 2nd half. Next season he received 18 assignments in the Horizon and Missouri Conference Conferences including a TV game between SIU and Illinois St. |
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