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Raymond Mon Jan 28, 2019 02:12pm

NCAA Men's Logo Question
 
I usually don't get too anal about this, but I'm crew-chiefing a college game Wednesday and my supervisor brought it up to me that we need to do a better job policing uniform/equipment issues.

Rule 1 Section 25. Logos, Labels, Trademarks, Patches
Art. 1. A single manufacturer’s or distributor’s normal logo, label or trademark meeting the size restrictions of Rule 1-25.2 is permitted once on the game jersey, once on the game shorts and once on all other items of apparel excluding the undershirt.


My question is about the bolded part. Is that interpreted as once for all other items collectively or once on each item? Case book does not touch on this and I don't keep old rule/case books, so I can't see if there was previously a case play on it.

HokiePaul Mon Jan 28, 2019 03:19pm

Wouldn't it have to be interpreted as once on each piece of apparel. Otherwise, any normal pair of socks with a swoosh/three stripes/etc. on each sock would be "2 logos".

bucky Mon Jan 28, 2019 05:56pm

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Originally Posted by HokiePaul (Post 1029416)
Wouldn't it have to be interpreted as once on each piece of apparel. Otherwise, any normal pair of socks with a swoosh/three stripes/etc. on each sock would be "2 logos".

I agree with this however, in that case, shouldn't it be written as "..and once on each other item of apparel excluding the undershirt."

It just seems to be poorly written. Perhaps it would be a good question for said supervisor. Although, then again, asking such questions over the grammar/context in use can be a good way to go on the crap list of a supervisor.

Camron Rust Mon Jan 28, 2019 09:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HokiePaul (Post 1029416)
Wouldn't it have to be interpreted as once on each piece of apparel. Otherwise, any normal pair of socks with a swoosh/three stripes/etc. on each sock would be "2 logos".

For that matter, wouldn't most shoes be illegal since most have at least 2 logos, sometimes 3-4. :0

ilyazhito Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:32pm

Shoes and socks are not considered part of the uniform, whether at the NFHS or NCAA levels. I would interpret the bolded part as once on each item (one logo on headband, one logo on each wristband, one logo on undershirt, one logo on tights/leg sleeves, one logo on each arm sleeve).

bob jenkins Tue Jan 29, 2019 08:44am

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Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1029450)
Shoes and socks are not considered part of the uniform, whether at the NFHS or NCAA levels. I would interpret the bolded part as once on each item (one logo on headband, one logo on each wristband, one logo on undershirt, one logo on tights/leg sleeves, one logo on each arm sleeve).

Not true for NCAAW (unless it's a recent rules change that I missed).

edit: they are not part of the uniform. But, they are part of apparel, and governed by the logo rules.

Big kerfluffle a couple of years ago over "two-logoed socks" -- players were supposed to turn the socks down to cover the logos. If the sock had only one logo (and many / most do, now), it was legal.


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