Spin Move - Actually called a traveling violation (Video)

[JRutledge]

Peace

Incorrect call, not consistently called a travel.

[Camron Rust]

Good call. He traveled before he even did the spin. He hopped on the same foot after catching the ball and before pivoting around for the spin.

[Stripes33]

I'm assuming he had the right foot as the pivot. The video shows the hop, foot comes up and then back down - travel in my opinion.

[bucky]

Clear travel and in real time, the hop/skip gives it away. Some could argue it was a technical travel on the initial step too.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bucky

Clear travel and in real time, the hop/skip gives it away. Some could argue it was a technical travel on the initial step too.

If you mean after he catches the ball at the top of the key, I agree. That's what I had when I first watched the video.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Incorrect call, not consistently called a travel.

So you're saying that every attempted spin move should be left alone?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Incorrect call, not consistently called a travel.

Clear travel on the spin move. It's inconsistently called b/c folks like you have a philosophy of not calling it.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Clear travel on the spin move. It's inconsistently called b/c folks like you have a philosophy of not calling it.

Well said!!!

I would say a strong majority of spin moves are travels.

Originally Posted by Raymond

Clear travel on the spin move. It's inconsistently called b/c folks l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ who ref at that level have a philosophy of not calling it.

Fixed that for you.

Originally Posted by Rich

So you're saying that every attempted spin move should be left alone?

Negative. I'm saying 1) the official likely can't see the gather of the ball, 2) the official should not call traveling unless he can clearly see both the gather of the ball and which is the pivot foot, and 3) I don't believe the player has fully gathered the ball until AFTER the "skip step", thus making his right-left after the gather legal.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Clear travel on the spin move. It's inconsistently called b/c folks like youwho ref at THAT level have a philosophy of not calling it.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Fixed that for you.

Fixed that for you.

[UNIgiantslayers]

C has an angle on the ball at rest with the right foot down, player hops on the right (pivot) foot again. I'm not saying that's what he saw, but he could absolutely see that ball at rest in front of the player/on his right hip from C position. Great get.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Fixed that for you.

Wait if they DO call it then wouldn’t it then be consistently called?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Wait if they DO call it then wouldn’t it then be consistently called?

No. When officials at "that" level are thinking it shouldn't be called and officials "THAT" level do call it, that is inconsistency.

It has been a POE more than once in recent times, even at the NCAA level.