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Pantherdreams Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:27pm

Ugrading/Downgrading High School Fouls
 
Had a situation last night VG game. Competitive game team A is pulling away late. Game is probably out of reach barring miraculous with a less than 2 min and a 12 pt lead. B1 turns the corner on her player at half and attacks the rim in transition, A2 takes a bad angle and has to open up and let her go, A3 from way back in the play comes in late and hard on her finish sends the ball careening but went through her back and legs in the air to get there.

My partner comes up with an illegal use call. A bench wants an unsportsmanlike foul (no intentionals or flagrants in FIBA). I come in on the way just to check in and he got everything I saw. Late, hard, through the airborne. He said he saw it and thought it was borderline and was going common foul. I did my job and gave him info he made a call and we went with it.

As always half the gym thinks you get it right the other doesn't.

We discussed it post game. He's ok with his call, I think i still would have gone the other way if it was my call. More importantly, if you make a foul call in a high school game before you officially report how ok would you be with upgrading or downgrading a foul based on information you recieve before reporting.

bob jenkins Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:57pm

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Originally Posted by Pantherdreams (Post 1028858)
More importantly, if you make a foul call in a high school game before you officially report how ok would you be with upgrading or downgrading a foul based on information you recieve before reporting.

Yes -- I always try to look to my partners on these types of calls to see if they have an opinion (common v. intentional in HS). Had one a couple of weeks ago -- we ended up at common.

WhistlesAndStripes Wed Jan 16, 2019 03:26pm

I had one last Saturday. A1 drives to the basket. I’m at C. Defender B1 comes running down from the elbow to try to make a play and jumps to try to block the shot with a full swing. She gets a piece of the ball and a shot upside the head of A1 on the follow through. My partner at L on the other side of the key and I both blow our whistles. As he comes across the key he begins a mini lecture to B1 about how fouls like this “could” be intentional. After he’s done with her, he and I chat briefly. I bring up the fact that this is classic excessive contact above the shoulders. It was a strike to the head. We reported an intentional foul.


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Raymond Wed Jan 16, 2019 03:28pm

If I'm on the fence and my partner brings info, I'll go F1/intentional. But if I have a full and complete look at the play, and I wasn't considering it in the first place, I probably won't change it.


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