Vid Request: Wyoming vs UNLV - blarge?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Shane O

I did not signal a PC foul but I pointed in a direction that could be interpreted that is what I would signal. Does my pointing constitute signaling that we should have called a double foul? My partner signaled block, I pointed in opposite direction, lol.

If the coach of the team on defense sees you with a fist in the air and pointing the opposite direction, he most definitely will interpret it as an offensive foul signal.

If your partner had not had a whistle, what would be the interpretation of your fist being up and you pointing in the opposite direction?

[Raymond]

As for this play, contact occurred outside the key on the C's side of the court and the C was the one who would have had the correct call for this play. Then the calling official directs the ball to be put in play on the wrong side of the basket.

From positioning, to game awareness, to lack of hustle when going to report, to lazy administration following the call--not a good look for the Lead. (yes, I know his name and his resume')

[BigCat]

Basketball happens really fast.. Split second decisions. We talk about who last touched ball before going OB. Did violation happen before foul? I think we should be able to talk on these and figure out right call. Our football friends get to throw a fkag and then pick it up. I don’t think we should be locked in on these when each guy is reacting in split second. Let them talk and if each is firm..then do double foul thing...BLOW AND HOLD from the outside also helps avoid these situations.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Basketball happens really fast.. Split second decisions. We talk about who last touched ball before going OB. Did violation happen before foul? I think we should be able to talk on these and figure out right call. Our football friends get to throw a fkag and then pick it up. I don’t think we should be locked in on these when each guy is reacting in split second. Let them talk and if each is firm..then do double foul thing...BLOW AND HOLD from the outside also helps avoid these situations.

Officials do not do that often and it is done when there are rules that apply that would make an action not illegal. They do not pick up holding calls just because someone disagrees with the call. You might pick up a defensive pass interference because the ball was tipped at the line of scrimmage, where another official does not even rule on PI rules. If there is a play at the pylon, those plays are ruled on one way or the other and cannot just decide not to make the call. Something has to be called. We just have a rule that says we cannot just arbitrarily pick one and I think in general that is a good rule. Because officials do not need to sell every call IMO.

Peace

[Shane O]

Originally Posted by Raymond

If the coach of the team on defense sees you with a fist in the air and pointing the opposite direction, he most definitely will interpret it as an offensive foul signal.

If your partner had not had a whistle, what would be the interpretation of your fist being up and you pointing in the opposite direction?

Thanks for the feedback!

I definitely would have called an offensive foul if not for partner blowing his whistle. No doubt my pointing in the opposite direction would be interpreted as an offensive foul call.

I haven't yet been caught in a situation like that and instantly was like oh shit! I already had my story to weasel out of it if asked by the coach(which was right in front of their bench). I was gonna say something to the effect that I thought I saw my partner signaling the other way or something like that but was mistaken. Luckily it was only the fans who voiced their displeasure and not the coach.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Shane O

Thanks for the feedback!



I definitely would have called an offensive foul if not for partner blowing his whistle. No doubt my pointing in the opposite direction would be interpreted as an offensive foul call.



I haven't yet been caught in a situation like that and instantly was like oh shit! I already had my story to weasel out of it if asked by the coach(which was right in front of their bench). I was gonna say something to the effect that I thought I saw my partner signaling the other way or something like that but was mistaken. Luckily it was only the fans who voiced their displeasure and not the coach.

Your best bet is just to be truthful and take your lumps. I was involved in the second blarge ("2 official double foul" for the pendantic) of my career last Friday. I just quickly got together with my partner, made sure we knew what the status of the ball was, brought the two coaches together, quickly told them we had a double foul because we both signaled, and then got the ball back in play very quickly.

There are too many eyes and too many video cameras out there to try to fake people out.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

There are too many eyes and too many video cameras out there to try to fake people out.

Agree. It was easier back in the good old days when they only had still cameras.

This guy would always set up somewhere on the endline and get in Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.'s way.

[Shane O]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Your best bet is just to be truthful and take your lumps. I was involved in the second blarge ("2 official double foul" for the pendantic) of my career last Friday. I just quickly got together with my partner, made sure we knew what the status of the ball was, brought the two coaches together, I quickly told them we had a double foul because we both signaled, and then got the ball back in play very quickly.

There are too many eyes and too many video cameras out there to try to fake people out.

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Good point!