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BillyMac Sat Dec 29, 2018 03:29pm

White Line All the Way Around ...
 
I have occasionally posted about pregame officials/coaches/captains conferences that are, in my opinion, way too long, often including the phrase, "It's the white line all the way around".

Worked in an newly refurbished gym today. New lights, new paint on walls, refinished floor, and new lines painted on floor.

I usually end my pregame with, "Any questions?". Visiting coach, "Yeah, which line is out of bounds?"

So I look. All other lines (lanes, free throw, division, three point, blocks) except the perimeter lines are blue. Perimeter line is white, however behind the white perimeter line is a three foot wide blue area.

So I answer, "It's the white line all the way around". I almost choked as I said it, but it had to be said.

bucky Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:47am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1027825)
I have occasionally posted about pregame officials/coaches/captains conferences that are, in my opinion, way too long, often including the phrase, "It's the white line all the way around".

Worked in an newly refurbished gym today. New lights, new paint on walls, refinished floor, and new lines painted on floor.

I usually end my pregame with, "Any questions?". Visiting coach, "Yeah, which line is out of bounds?"

So I look. All other lines (lanes, free throw, division, three point, blocks) except the perimeter lines are blue. Perimeter line is white, however behind the white perimeter line is a three foot wide blue area.

So I answer, "It's the white line all the way around". I almost choked as I said it, but it had to be said.

Yes, that will happen. I recall a gym described just as you indicated except that there was no white line. OOB was simply the differentiated coloring from the "tan" court. It was as if the floor "engineers" forgot the smaller, perimeter line.

just another ref Sun Dec 30, 2018 01:14am

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Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1027838)
Yes, that will happen. I recall a gym described just as you indicated except that there was no white line. OOB was simply the differentiated coloring from the "tan" court. It was as if the floor "engineers" forgot the smaller, perimeter line.


Why do you need the smaller perimeter line?

Nevadaref Sun Dec 30, 2018 05:49am

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Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1027838)
Yes, that will happen. I recall a gym described just as you indicated except that there was no white line. OOB was simply the differentiated coloring from the "tan" court. It was as if the floor "engineers" forgot the smaller, perimeter line.

The smaller, perimeter line is what is confusing and the problem.
That was part of the point BillyMac was making.
The rest, of course, is his rant against the weirdos who pregame strange stuff.

SC Official Sun Dec 30, 2018 08:47am

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Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1027838)
Yes, that will happen. I recall a gym described just as you indicated except that there was no white line. OOB was simply the differentiated coloring from the "tan" court. It was as if the floor "engineers" forgot the smaller, perimeter line.

You must not have worked in very many gyms because this isn’t uncommon at all (and is permitted by rule).

BillyMac Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:54am

Pregame Conversation With Speaking Captains ...
 
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1027843)
The rest, of course, is his rant against the weirdos who pregame strange stuff.

I did not use the term "weirdos".

On behalf of all Forum members, apologies to all such weirdos.

However, that said, I am pleased that IAABO mechanics now allow us to toss without informing the speaking captains, who's numbers we have actually seen (when they pull up their warmups), and memorized, and who are both starting.

Of course, we could still have a request for a defensive match-up if three or more substitutes from the same team enter during an opportunity to substitute.

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, I've only had a few such match-up requests in the past thirty-eight years.

Although, in my new life as a subvarsity official, who knows?

crosscountry55 Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:46pm

I agree the smaller perimeter line is unnecessary and nothing more than a decorative fad.

I am also not at all confused by it, and thus I could care less about it.


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BillyMac Sun Dec 30, 2018 01:13pm

Decorative ...
 
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Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 1027854)
I am also not at all confused by it ...

Nor was I, but I did find it odd that only the perimeter line was white, all the other lines were blue (lanes, free throw, division, three point, blocks), and the three foot wide blue area was strictly decorative.

I can't remember working a gym where the division line was a different color than the perimeter line, but I really never paid much attention, so I'll watch for it over the next few weeks.

Why didn't the painters have the three foot wide blue area as the out of bounds boundary (with no white line at all)?

https://shareitsfunny.com/wp-content...ed-the-cat.jpg

bucky Sun Dec 30, 2018 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1027843)
The smaller, perimeter line is what is confusing and the problem.
That was part of the point BillyMac was making.
The rest, of course, is his rant against the weirdos who pregame strange stuff.

We must not be discussing the same thing. Why would the white line around the court be confusing? What was BM's point?

Doing a search (images) for basketball courts shows a vast majority of them with the perimeter line. I did find one that did not have one but it was of a court in one of the those giant field houses.

http://cdn.sqhk.co/sportcourtsouth/2...027-resize.jpg


These are the ones that I hate and that really confuse players.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-59c3f79b/t...-0921-20170921

crosscountry55 Sun Dec 30, 2018 02:02pm

That second gym photo looks like it may be familiar to JRut. [emoji6]


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BillyMac Sun Dec 30, 2018 02:44pm

All The Way Around ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1027861)
What was BM's point?

That for the first time in my career it was important and relevant for me to say in my officials/coaches/captains pregame conference, "It's the white line all the way around", in order to properly reply to a coach's question.

I gagged as I said it, but I got it out.

Rich Sun Dec 30, 2018 02:46pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1027870)
That for the first time in my career it was important and relevant for me to say in my officials/coaches/captains pregame conference, "It's the white line all the way around", in order to properly reply to a coach's question.

I gagged as I said it, but I got it out.

There's no reason for a coach to have to ask that question. How could that line be IN bounds?

BillyMac Sun Dec 30, 2018 02:59pm

Get Out Of Dodge ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1027871)
There's no reason for a coach to have to ask that question. How could that line be IN bounds?

Yeah, coaches know all the rules.

No need for a rule discussion here when I was able to simply answer his stupid question with the "weirdo" (to quote Nevadaref) line, "It's the white line all the way around", and get out of Dodge.


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