Girls Just Want To Have Fun (Cyndi Lauper, 1983) ...
 

As the parent of two athletic daughters, I try to be as gender neutral as possible.

Girls varsity scrimmage today. Jump ball gets tapped to two short opponent guards, who both control the ball and a held ball is called. Now the two short opponent guards have to jump it up. Both girls as well as their teammates had big smiles on their faces, neither girl had ever participated as a jumper before. High school, middle school, travel, recreation. Never. Everyone involved had fun and appreciated the experience.

Call me sexist, but I doubt that I would see the same joy in a boys game. I believe that girls often have more fun playing basketball than boys. Not all the time, not all girls or not all boys, but often.

Didn't that song come out in 1985?

Peace

You're both wrong, it was released in 1983 by Cyndi Lauper.

It was on the DJ's playlist for my 30th birthday party.

"Girls Just Want to Have Fun" is a song written by and first recorded in 1979 by American musician Robert Hazard. It is better known as a single by American singer Cyndi Lauper, whose version was released in 1983.


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Don't feed the troll, JRut. :p :D

I was asking a question because the song certainly did not come out in the 70s. MTV was not out in 1979 and this video was apart of their early era. I also saw something that noted the song coming out in 1985. I was in the Junior High era.

Peace

I Want My MTV (Circa 1984) ...
 

https://youtu.be/AGZSWdh17l0

Too late, damage has already been done.

I'm pleased to hear that some are reading my post titles. I try to title each of my individual posts, often trying to make the titles interesting with some type of popular culture, musical, historical, or quotable reference.

In this case a mistake (since fixed) in my title generated more interest than the post itself.

If you've got a few minutes, enjoy the original 1983 video, maybe one of the best from the MTV era, back when MTV actually had music (young'uns can check out "music on MTV" on the Google).

https://youtu.be/PIb6AZdTr-A

Some girls games are more of a social event than athletic competition. :D

Glad I don't officiate many of them.

I think we have to be careful with the generalizations. There are many times when girls do not look like they are having fun or that they really want to be there. Seen enough girls games where they argue (with each other), complain or look like they are in stress. There are many dynamics to sports. Often it is simply a moment in time where what you see will not happen again.

Peace

I'm pretty sure if you had a couple of 5'8" boys performing the re-jump, there would be some smiles and probably a comment or two.

One Moment In Time (Whitney Houston, 1988) ...
 

Agree, thus my modifier: Not all the time, not all girls or not all boys, but often.

Because I Said So ...
 

No argument from me.

One of the new jumpers actually asked me "Do I have to?".

Well, you can speak for yourself on this one. Many boys I see playing basketball have a fun time. Yes, it is competition, but many support each other and like seeing their teammates do well. I think this is about the culture of a team, not necessarily the gender of the players.

Peace

The White Shadow (1978) ...
 

https://youtu.be/mC7dtj2Hh30

We didn't sing in the showers, but we always had a great time socializing in the locker room after games and practices, some of my fondest memories of high school.

I have written to the NF about jump balls---suggesting to them that its not needed--just give the initail possession to Visitor team. I did get a response saying that the "jump ball" was something that was rooted in the history of the game it will not be removed. Alas, :rolleyes:

And What About Those Peach Baskets ...
 

Are you sure that you didn't mistakenly write to Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.? He's the only person in the world that likes jump balls. Something about being a college roommate of James Naismith.

I suppose that the NFHS is upset that we've done away with chicken wire all the way around the basketball court? It's rooted in the history of the game. That's why basketball players are still called "Cagers".

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I like jump balls as well. The AP arrow gets confusing to remember, especially if you have an incompetent (or distracted) table staff, who forget to (re)set the arrow. If Euroleague and NBA can make jump balls work, and jump balls were in the NFHS and NCAA game until the 1980s, there is no reason why jump balls can't be restored. There is no reason why scholastic basketball can't have jump balls and shot clocks at the same time ;).

Gunga Din (Rudyard Kipling, 1890) ...
 

Even though I'm pretty sure that you know them (you seem like a rules oriented kind of guy), can you recite all the jump ball rules without peeking at the rulebook? Based on original positions of players, jumpers, nonjumpers, on the circle, off the circle, who can move, limits of movement, crossing lines, before the toss, during the toss, after the toss, limitations of the jumpers, and process, interpret, and enforce, all these rules within the fraction of a second that it takes for a jump ball?

If so, you're a better basketball official than I am, ilyazhito" (with apologies to Rudyard Kipling).

Me thinks that refs (and players) knew the jump rules better when they occurred more than once per game . . .

Non-jumpers who are on the circle may move off the circle, but non-jumpers who are off the circle may not move onto the circle until the jump ball is touched. Jumpers cannot catch the tossed ball, tap the ball before it reaches its highest point, touch the tossed ball more than twice, or leave the circle until the jump ball ends (it is touched by (or touches) a non-jumper or an official, it hits the floor, backboard, or ring, or goes out of bounds).

It would also be interesting to actually officiate a jump ball that is not in the center circle, because the current 3-person mechanics for a jump ball are designed for center-circle jump balls (the Umpires stand diagonally across from each other on opposite sides of the Referee (the tossing official)). Would the Referee still toss the jump balls outside the center circle, with Umpires in the usual configuration, or would there be different positions (such as the non-tossing officials at Lead and Trail tableside, with the tossing official as Center Opposite)? The 2-person mechanics for non-center circle jump balls would also have to be developed (U might be closer to the table than R, to properly start the clock). I'd be interested to see what NBA, or old NFHS/NCAA manuals from the time when jump balls were still a thing, do to address jump balls outside the center circle.

The only question is would NFHS seriously consider a proposal to re-institute the jump ball for situations other than the start of a period/overtime.

Billy will tell every one that I am not a fan of AP and I have humorously referred to it as an abomination upon the game. In reality, I can live with even though going back having Jump Balls is still better way to put the Ball back into play especially for Held Balls.

What is really an abomination upon the game and I do mean that seriously, is the Restricted Arc in NCAA Men's and Women's, NBA/WNBA, and FIBA, and the Lower Defensive Block in NCAA Women's. I am going to end my comment now because it "really grinds my gears". There also two other things in NFHS and NCAA Men's and Women's that also "grinds my gears" but I don't want to go into it now.

MTD, Sr.

Kung Fu (1972) ...
 

You have disappointed me grasshopper.

When the official is ready and until the ball is tossed, nonjumpers shall not change position around the center restraining circle.

There may be more.

The jumpers are quite easy to deal with.

It's the nonjumpers that have complex limitations.

And keep in mind that you have to process, interpret, and enforce, all these rules within the fraction of a second that it takes for a jump ball.

Like The Back Of Our Hand ...
 

Damn straight. Several jump balls a game at three different jump ball circles.

Coaches had jump ball plays depending on the matchups and where the jump ball was.

From Line Of Scrimmage ...
 

Off topic. Fifteen yard penalty. Replay down.

If you want to avoid him disappointing you, ask him some esoteric questions about the experimental G-League 5 man rotation scheme.

I'm thinking he can recite the perfect answers from the top of his head. Trivial HS stuff, not so much....

I think the correct penalty is an Indirect Free Kick.

MTD, Sr.

I had thought jump ball plays had gone completely out of style, but I've seen a couple successful ones this year. Perhaps they are successful because the other team expects the normal routine of slowly setting up the half court offense to start the game.

Easy Two Points ...
 

Back when I was coaching middle school and had a tall jumper, my favorite play was to line all four of my nonjumpers on the circle and have one break (usually on the front right of the jumper) long to our basket the split second the referee made a move to toss, have the jumper attempt a very long tap upcourt, and if things went well, we lead two to zero on an easy wide open right handed layup.

The key was to remind both officials before the game that nonjumpers on the circle can legally leave the circle at any time, before, during, or after the toss.

Objection, Your Honor! The statement by my opponent is irrelevant.

I would also assess an administrative technical foul for content irrelevant to the topic requiring me to enter it into the scorebook;).

Bruce Lee Who?
 

Please. No. Don't anybody even suggest to BillyMac anything about the 70's smash hit "Kung Foo Fighting." He'll probably post the lyrics.

"Let's get it on!'

I expected it to happen too. Fast as lightning, even.

Oh-Hoh-Hoh-Hoah ...
 

Pay attention young'uns. There will be a quiz afterward.

Freddy and bigbeardedbryan (great username) must have glittery disco balls hanging above their computers because both know lyrics from a forty-plus year old disco song.

My "grasshopper" reference came from the 1972 American action adventure martial arts western drama television series Kung Fu starring David Carradine as Kwai Chang Caine.

(Hey. If we can have movies about cowboys fighting aliens, and Abraham Lincoln fighting vampires, then we can have a action adventure martial arts western drama television series. They all could have really happened.)

One hit wonder Carl Douglas's smash disco hit "Kung Fu Fighting" came out in 1974.

Both the television series and the song were probably inspired by successful martial arts movies of the late 1960's and early 1970's, many starring actor Bruce Lee, who died in 1973.

Enjoy and don't be afraid to sing along as I did, or get out of your chair and do some martial arts punches and kicks, as I also did.

https://youtu.be/gPpHxNtVBko

Just Who Do You Think That You're Fooling ???
 

And don't you deny it.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/90/9053...2d5342858f.jpg

Because, baby its cold outside.

MTD, Sr.

Oh-Hoh-Hoh-Hoah Ouch ...
 

Hey Mark T. DeNucci, Sr., I hope that you didn't hurt yourself showing off your Kung Fu Fighting punches and kicks.

Mrs. DeNucci, Sr. must have thought you were nuts, or was it just like any other day at the DeNucci, Sr. residence?

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=OIP.hGP...95&w=173&h=123

Billy:

She has alway known I was and still am nuts. I am still amazed that she said yes a long time ago in a galaxy far away.

MTD, Sr.