Video Request: First to Touch after going OOB

IUgrad92

Can someone post a play from the Gonzaga/Arizona game, 9:48 mark of the 2nd half?

Player saves ball inbounds, momentum carries him OOB, but then establishes inbounds and it first to touch the ball. Was whistled for a violation, to which Jay Bilas supported and agreed with. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I know NFHS rules allow for player to be first to touch in this scenario, by having 'something in (usually a foot) and nothing out', thus having inbound status. Assuming it is the same for NCAAM?

crosscountry55

Unless I am mistaken, I thought both NCAA rule sets were the same as NFHS here. Per your description, then, this would not be a violation assuming it didn’t cause some other violation (illegal dribble, for example). Maybe the calling official worked a football game the night before? [emoji6]

There is a rules difference in calling a TO while airborne in player control with momentum carrying OOB. You can do this in HS but the TO is not granted in NCAA I believe. But this is not the OP scenario.

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BillyMac

Could the calling official have mistakenly believed that it wasn't momentum and that the player left the court for an unauthorized reason. Isn't it a NCAA violation as soon as said player steps back on the court after leaving the court for an unauthorized reason? NFHS rules don't require said player to return, rather just to leave the court.

Then again, I know more about the final conclusions of the Mueller probe than I know about NCAA rules.

NFHS: If a player's momentum carries the player off the court, that player can be the first player to touch the ball after returning inbounds. That player must not have left the court voluntarily, and must immediately return inbounds. That player must have something in, and nothing out. It is not necessary to have both feet back inbounds. It is a violation for a player to intentionally leave the court for an unauthorized reason.

BillyMac

crosscountry55 wrote
There is a rules difference in calling a TO while airborne in player control with momentum carrying OOB. You can do this in HS but the TO is not granted in NCAA ...

I believe that you are correct.

NFHS: A player saving the ball in the air can ask for, and be granted, a timeout even if that player is going out of bounds. The key is whether, or not, the player has control of the ball.

Then again, I know more about String Theory than I know about NCAA rules.

Raymond

BillyMac wrote
I believe that you are correct.

NFHS: A player saving the ball in the air can ask for, and be granted, a timeout even if that player is going out of bounds. The key is whether, or not, the player has control of the ball.

Then again, I know more about String Theory than I know about NCAA rules.

Or NBA rules 😉

As for the college rule, there are enough college officials in this forum that guessing is not needed. Yes, an airborne player headed OOB cannot have a TO granted.

BillyMac

Raymond wrote
Or NBA rules.

Agree.