Flagrant Foul at End of OSU vs Charlotte Game?

[ilyazhito]

This is a textbook Flagrant 1 foul. There was not even a remote attempt to play the ball, with the wrap-up just being icing on the cake. Correct call by the officials.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

This is a textbook Flagrant 1 foul. There was not even a remote attempt to play the ball, with the wrap-up just being icing on the cake. Correct call by the officials.

Not arguing/disagreeing but I thought it was a textbook common foul. The right hand is indeed around the back but the left hand appears to be playing the ball. Is the score/time relevant to this call? Would the officials have called a flagrant if this play was done right after the tip? In other words, can officials use time/score/situation to judge a play? Or should all plays be judged the same regardless of time/score/situation? Stuff to consider as officials need to have same understanding before start of game....at least IMO.

[NCHSAA]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

This is a textbook Flagrant 1 foul. There was not even a remote attempt to play the ball, with the wrap-up just being icing on the cake. Correct call by the officials.

I can see an argument for this being a correct call by the letter of the law. However, the game is not played in black and white. There are grey areas. I would NOT even consider calling this play an F-1 based on game management (time, score, etc.). It is a coaching/playing tactic with a long history.

I am still surprised it stood as called. Makes me wonder if they had previous issues, but even so, I still don't see this being an F-1. Not even close.

[deecee]

This is not a "hook and hold" play. This is also a common foul. Flagrant 1 is a reach, even by the letter of the law. I would expect this to be changed next year to add more confusion.

[thedewed]

the intentional foul situation at the end of the game is a joke. change the rules so that the charade ends, one way or the other. everyone knows at the end when behind they are intentionally fouling. also look at play late in KU Standford game last night, called flagrant, same official, because when reaching for the ball on a shot, fleshy part of defenders arm contacted shooter's head. what a joke. Collins used to call too much BS when he officiated. not surprised he has got this jacked up now. Although I do agree with the hook and hold player, when it actually happens, because it is dangerous.