D3 Player Takes Cheap Shot

[crosscountry55]

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[Rich]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

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I never did get an answer to my question, either:

Is it somehow better to be wrong calling it a live ball F2 if it's really a dead ball (and therefore should've been a flagrant technical) than if you get it wrong in the other direction (call it a dead ball flagrant TF when it should've been a live ball F2)?

Oh, well. Sucked into the vortex, like always.

[ilyazhito]

If the shot was already successful when the flagrant foul happened, then it would be a flagrant 2 technical foul, the ball would be put in play at the division line after 2 free throws by ANY player.
If the shot was not yet successful at the time of the flagrant foul, then it would be a flagrant 2 personal foul, the ball would be put in play at the nearest designated spot (the nearest spot to the corner is the 28' mark on that side) following 2 free throws by THE VICTIM of the flagrant foul.
In either case, the offender would be ejected from the game, but it is important to be clear on what type of foul happened, because it affects further administration of the game. If I was on the crew, I would send the players to the benches, talk to the T before he reports the foul (unless I am the T, in which case I would call the other officials together and tell them that I have a flagrant 2 foul on White 23, and that he will be ejected from the game. I would ask L and C if the foul was before or after the ball entered the basket, and finally contribute my input. Then, we would decide how to adjudicate the play), and then decide whether the ball entered the basket before or after the foul as a crew. Then, we would adjudicate the play appropriately.

I would call this a flagrant 2 technical foul, because the official had time to signal the successful shot before he called the foul (i.e. the ball had entered the basket before the foul was committed).

[Altor]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

(i.e. the ball had entered the basket before the foul was committed).

Entering the basket does not make the ball dead.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Altor

Entering the basket does not make the ball dead.

The ball entering the basket and remaining in or passing through the basket ends the try for goal. Since the player was fouled after the shot was successfully completed, the ball would be remain dead (the ball is dead after a player scores and until the ball is at the disposal of a player from the team scored upon for the subsequent throw-in), and the resulting foul would be a technical foul.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

The ball entering the basket and remaining in or passing through the basket ends the try for goal.

Not what you said the first time.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

I never did get an answer to my question, either:

Is it somehow better to be wrong calling it a live ball F2 if it's really a dead ball (and therefore should've been a flagrant technical) than if you get it wrong in the other direction (call it a dead ball flagrant TF when it should've been a live ball F2)?

Oh, well. Sucked into the vortex, like always.

And you won't because he doesn't have an answer.

Shocking.