which indicator would have priority to end the period...the red light behind backboard OR the buzzer (assumingly, they are mistakenly not synchronized)?

thanks

Tough question. The item that has first priority is the clock itself. I would think horn would be second, but I don't know if there's a rule.

NCAA 1-17-4 says the light is there "to indicate when the period-ending horn has sounded". It does not say the horn is there to indicate when the period-ending light is illuminated. Draw your own conclusions.

In high school,it's the buzzer,horn,etc.

NFHS Rule 5-6. "It ends when the signal <i>sounds</i> indicating time has expired...".

[/B][/QUOTE]In high school,it's the buzzer,horn,etc.

NFHS Rule 5-6. "It ends when the signal <i>sounds</i> indicating time has expired...". [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks, exactly what i was looking for!

This is a good thing because the old guys wouldnt be able to see the red light anyway without their glasses and all!

This is a good thing because the old guys wouldnt be able to see the red light anyway without their glasses and all!

[/B][/QUOTE]Actually,it's better for us to see.What if our hearing aid batteries die at the wrong time? :eek:

Actually,it's better for us to see.What if our hearing aid batteries die at the wrong time? :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]

JR -- Is this just a hypothetical question? Or has it actually happened to you?

Actually,it's better for us to see.What if our hearing aid batteries die at the wrong time? :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]

JR -- Is this just a hypothetical question? Or has it actually happened to you?

[/B][/QUOTE]Hey,do I ask you what you do if your batteries fail?

I apologize,Juulie-but I just couldn't help it.:D

J.R. - 1
Rain - 0

For those keeping score at home.

I was looking the other way and have no idea what you're talking about.

No idea at all....

Anyways...who ya like in the game this afternoon?

had a funny argument presented in assocation mtg last nite...."light travels faster than sound" :)

As Keith Olbermann used to say on ESPN, "That's a 4-3 groundout if you're scoring at home. . . or even if you're not!" :)

JR -- Is this just a hypothetical question? Or has it actually happened to you?

[/B][/QUOTE]Hey,do I ask you what you do if your batteries fail? [/B][/QUOTE]

JR -- I'm not reduced to battery power yet, in fact, my warranty isn't even expired.

Which is why so many coaches look quite bright...until you hear them ;)

Actually,it's better for us to see.What if our hearing aid batteries die at the wrong time? :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]

This is known to have happened!

LOL

hhaha great one!!;)

In high school,it's the buzzer,horn,etc.

NFHS Rule 5-6. "It ends when the signal <i>sounds</i> indicating time has expired...". [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks, exactly what i was looking for! [/B][/QUOTE]

How's this for clarity?:
NFHS 1-14 A red light is permitted behind each backboard to supplement the audible timers' signal that time has expired for a quarter or extra period. It shall be synchronized with this signal.

When I did track, I always looked for the smoke to start the watch. Not the sound. In Basketball they are close enough for them to be almost simultanious. Unless you know for sure one is wronge, I would go with the light on the scoreboard.

Why would you go with the light? :confused: The rulebook says that the period <b>officially</b> ends when the signal <b>sounds</b>. The rulebook also says that the light is "supplemental" only to the signal.Seems pretty straightforward as to which one that they want used.

Furtrhermore, unless the planets line up, how are you going to focus on both well. Eyes on the shot, ears open for the horn. Eyes on the clock or light, how are you going to see when the release is?

Positioning my man. Get the right position and you will always know what went first. Actually I would try to line up so I saw the clock. I am so not used to having a light that I would go with seeing zeros on the clock.

Whoops! Gotta problem with that one too,Tim. Seeing zeros on the clock <b>isn't</b> officially the end of a period either. Only the sound of the horn officially ends the period. I had a game where the clock stopped on a whistle and it then showed 00, but the horn never went off. We had to put to put the ball back into play to make the horn sound,and that officially ended the period.

That's absolutely correct for track and field - because the action causing the flash and the sound are one and the same. In basketball, however, even though the horn and light are supposed to be synchronized, there are times when they are not. In those cases, the horn prevails.

That may be true but if I am looking at the clock for a last second shot I will call off the the shot if I see all zeros and the hand is still on the ball. If the timer can stop the clock with 00 on the clock and no horn, then we play on.

Been there . . . . done that!

gentlemen, what gives you the right, or power to set aside the fact that the horn ends the period, and I respectfully disagree that you can see both the hand on or off the ball and the zeros...we have a clock in a high school here that shows 0:00 a little bit before the horn goes off...we are sure in our pregame conference to tell the visitors, that it is the horn, not the clock that ends the period...