History of 3-person officiating

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I am not going to climb up into my attic.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. officiated the first two person game ever in 1891. His partner was James Naismith. Naismith was the referee. As the umpire, it was Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.'s job to climb up a ladder to get the ball out of the peach basket after every goal. It was supposed to be a three person game but Abner Doubleday got stuck in traffic.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. officiated the first two person game ever in 1891. His partner was James Naismith. Naismith was the referee. As the umpire, it was Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.'s job to climb up a ladder to get the ball out of the peach basket after every goal.

LOL!

MTD, Sr.

[LRZ]

Billy, as a kid in the gym, weren't you watching that game? You were yelling that they had to get rid of the jump ball after every basket.

[ilyazhito]

I think that it was Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.'s father who officiated the 1st game with Naismith. Mark may be old, but he's not THAT old!

I know that the PIAA can be slow on the uptake (only implementing a rule on transfers this year, still making officials wear striped shirts for volleyball, and still allowing collared shirts in basketball when all other states have gone to V-necks), so I'm interested in when PA chose to put 3 officials on the floor for a varsity game for the 1st time. Idaho will put 3 on the floor for the state tournament this coming season, and AZ is phasing in 3-person this season.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I think that it was Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.'s father who officiated the 1st game with Naismith. Mark may be old, but he's not THAT old!

I know that the PIAA can be slow on the uptake (only implementing a rule on transfers this year, still making officials wear striped shirts for volleyball, and still allowing collared shirts in basketball when all other states have gone to V-necks), so I'm interested in when PA chose to put 3 officials on the floor for a varsity game for the 1st time. Idaho will put 3 on the floor for the state tournament this coming season, and AZ is phasing in 3-person this season.

When will you cease spouting useless minutiae and find a way to gain some much needed floor experience.
Are we supposed to be impressed by your recitations of trivialities?
Do you think any of this establishes you as an effective official?

More listening, less talk!!!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I think that it was Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.'s father who officiated the 1st game with Naismith. Mark may be old, but he's not THAT old!

I know that the PIAA can be slow on the uptake (only implementing a rule on transfers this year, still making officials wear striped shirts for volleyball, and still allowing collared shirts in basketball when all other states have gone to V-necks), so I'm interested in when PA chose to put 3 officials on the floor for a varsity game for the 1st time. Idaho will put 3 on the floor for the state tournament this coming season, and AZ is phasing in 3-person this season.

You're not going to get a lot of responses. We're more interested tangible rules, mechanics, and play-calling discussions.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Raymond

You're not going to get a lot of responses. We're more interested tangible rules, mechanics, and play-calling discussions.

Well, I intended this as an interesting side story to keep discussion going on the forum until basketball season proper begins. Thank you to the contributors on this thread so far.

Rich, you really must have moved around! You live somewhere in the Midwest (MN), based on your current posts, and mentioned that you were in TN until recently. Maybe you were in PA as well for a work-related assignment (or graduate school). If PA had 3-person in the 1990s, they must have been only slightly behind the curve (NCAA adopted 3-person in the 70s, first written evidence is the 78-79 CCA men'should manual, and NBA adopted 3-person for good just before PA) in that aspect.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Well, I intended this as an interesting side story to keep discussion going on the forum until basketball season proper begins. Thank you to the contributors on this thread so far.

Rich, you really must have moved around! You live somewhere in the Midwest (MN), based on your current posts, and mentioned that you were in TN until recently. Maybe you were in PA as well for a work-related assignment (or graduate school). If PA had 3-person in the 1990s, they must have been only slightly behind the curve (NCAA adopted 3-person in the 70s, first written evidence is the 78-79 CCA men'should manual, and NBA adopted 3-person for good just before PA) in that aspect.

HS varsity. I was an official in PA from 1987-1994 -- it's where I grew up.

Tennessee from 1994-1997. A few other places from 1997-2002.

I've been in WI the last 17 years.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I think that it was Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.'s father who officiated the 1st game with Naismith. Mark may be old, but he's not THAT old!

I know that the PIAA can be slow on the uptake (only implementing a rule on transfers this year, still making officials wear striped shirts for volleyball, and still allowing collared shirts in basketball when all other states have gone to V-necks), so I'm interested in when PA chose to put 3 officials on the floor for a varsity game for the 1st time. Idaho will put 3 on the floor for the state tournament this coming season, and AZ is phasing in 3-person this season.

I worked a 3-person varsity game in PA in 1993.