M NCAA fouled on shot, loses it, then shoots again while airborne. Rules reference pl

[Sharpshooternes]

Can anyone help with a case or rules citation of the above play? I can't find it. TIA.

[bucky]

Not sure why it would not count. This play happens frequently. I must be missing something normally obvious.

[Camron Rust]

Continuous motion and the definition of the end of a try.

It might count or it might not depending on the above factors. If the ball is out of the shooter's hands and clearly can't go in the try has ended and the ball is dead. They don't get to grab it and take another try. If they're bobbling it on the way up, however, and stabilize it, it can count.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by bucky

Not sure why it would not count. This play happens frequently. I must be missing something normally obvious.

It's almost always counted. But reading the rule on continuous motion (assuming college is similar to NFHS), it arguably should not -- the second shooting movement (after re-gathering the lost ball) occurred after the foul so continuous motion wouldn't apply.

I remember a thread on this probably a year or two ago with a video.

[bucky]

I have been officiating/playing/coaching/spectating for over 40 years and have never seen it not count.

[BillyMac]

If an opponent fouls after a player has started a try for goal, he/she
is permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or
stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any
activity while holding the ball.

The act of shooting begins simultaneously with the start of the try
or tap and ends when the ball is clearly in flight, and includes the airborne
shooter.

The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the
throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball
becomes dead.

Based on this language, I don't believe that the goal should count in a high school game.

Of course, some may have differing views regarding the meanings of "customary", "clearly", and "certain".

[bucky]

"Differing views"? Correct, as based on the language, I believe that the goal should count in any game.

Again, this is based on what I have pictured in my head as the play based on the OP. Happens frequently. Furthermore, if, for those that feel that way, by rule it is to not count, then refer to my tagline.....again.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

...regarding the meanings of "customary", "clearly", and "certain".

I just realized that there is a fourth "c", continuous.