Duke/Kansas OOB in Last Minute

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Yeah but then you get a situation like in the Wisconsin-Kentucky a few years ago where they missed a critical possession off of Wisconsin late in the game where they didn't take enough time to review. By the time they got the one angle that had the call, the officials had moved on.

That was Wisconsin/Duke in the title game. But thank you for unwittingly defending the other post I just made.

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

That was Wisconsin/Duke in the title game. But thank you for unwittingly defending the other post I just made.

I knew it was Wisconsin, thought it was the semi-final!

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

On a side note, in real time, I'd make the call the L did 100 times out of 100. When there's a poke, and the ball goes OOB, it is virtually impossible to do anything other than assume the poker was the last to touch. Glances off of fingertips 0.02 seconds later are nearly impossible for the human eye to discern.

Yeah I don't care much for this trend. I would argue that 90% of the time when the ball is hit out of a players hands, that player likely touched it last. But we don't call it that way. I saw another review this year involving Gene Steretore on a Michigan game where he came to the broadcast guys and said "we saw two frames that had it off the player holding the ball"....really?!? Do we really want to be so precise that we forget review is there to correct OBVIOUS errors in judgement. Las tonight was not an obvious error in judgement and thus should have have been overturned.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Yeah I don't care much for this trend. I would argue that 90% of the time when the ball is hit out of a players hands, that player likely touched it last. But we don't call it that way. I saw another review this year involving Gene Steretore on a Michigan game where he came to the broadcast guys and said "we saw two frames that had it off the player holding the ball"....really?!? Do we really want to be so precise that we forget review is there to correct OBVIOUS errors in judgement. Las tonight was not an obvious error in judgement and thus should have have been overturned.

This is a valid point. Replay has forced us into the position where we make this type of call one way for 38 minutes and a different way for the other 2.

It might be worth refining the OOB violation verbiage in some way so as to state, “when a player dislodges the ball from a BH and the ball subsequently goes directly OOB, the player who dislodged the ball is deemed to have caused it to go out.” Then write a couple of case plays to illustrate rulings. Problem solved!




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