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about 29 seconds to go, the nice split of the D and then the alley opp dunk for the Red Raiders. On that play there could have been a block call on the pass but best it was ignored.
Say on a situation like that, say there is a whistle for the block. Is the play dead right then? I'm assuming so but what if the teammate had caught the ball and was in the act of shooting/dunking at the same time as the whistle?
I think I recall an NBA play like this when the bucket counted and there was the foul off as well. NCAA and NFHS different?

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Originally Posted by TopicalTropical (Post 1019125)

about 29 seconds to go, the nice split of the D and then the alley opp dunk for the Red Raiders. On that play there could have been a block call on the pass but best it was ignored.

Say on a situation like that, say there is a whistle for the block. Is the play dead right then? I'm assuming so but what if the teammate had caught the ball and was in the act of shooting/dunking at the same time as the whistle?

I think I recall an NBA play like this when the bucket counted and there was the foul off as well. NCAA and NFHS different?

See now this is a fair discussion. This is a rules and officiating question.

I did not see the play, but based on your hypothetical description, the ball would have been dead when the common foul occurred. Even if the whistle came late, the whistle merely marks the act that precipitated it. This is one of the rules fundamentals: “An official’s whistle rarely causes the ball to become dead (it is already dead).”

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Yes, if they had called that block, the ball would be dead on that foul, no shot.

That was a great piece of officiating to see the whole play and to pass on that.

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 1019137)

Yes, if they had called that block, the ball would be dead on that foul, no shot.

But (and I know Camron knows this; it's for the benefit of the OP), if the shot had been released before the foul, then the shot would count (if it was successful).

And, in NCAAW, the "time of the foul" is when the whistle blows, not the time of the contact.

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1019150)

Even if the shot had not been released, as long as they were in the act of shooting, the shot would have counted since the foul would have been on the defense.

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1019157)

Even if the shot had not been released, as long as they were in the act of shooting, the shot would have counted since the foul would have been on the defense.

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Oh -- you're right. I misread / mis-remembered the play -- I was responding as if the foul would have been on the offense.

Either a block or nothing. I like nothing.