NCAA Vid Request - Sat 3/17 - Kent. vs Buff - BC violation?

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

He was dribbling from the backcourt to the frontcourt. A deflection by a defender does not necessarily end the dribble. He merely continued the dribble after the deflection.

I had him no longer in control because of the deflection. We will have to agree to disagree.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bucky

I had him no longer in control because of the deflection. We will have to agree to disagree.

Control is a matter of judgement and I could see either opinion. If there is any doubt as to control, I'd default to not calling a violation.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bucky

I had him no longer in control because of the deflection. We will have to agree to disagree.

If the defense deflects the ball, the offense can touch the ball anywhere and still regain player control in the back court. That's the rule.

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[bucky]

If I recall, defender's status was the offensive team's BC. Really need the video. It was really close and difficult to officiate on a technical level. Bang bang right at the division line.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bucky

If I recall, defender's status was the offensive team's BC. Really need the video. It was really close and difficult to officiate on a technical level. Bang bang right at the division line.

I don't think that would matter.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I don't think that would matter.

I feel it would b/c the ball would then have BC status and Raymond's point would be irrelevant.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bucky

I feel it would b/c the ball would then have BC status and Raymond's point would be irrelevant.

I believe the rule allows the offense to regain control without jeopardy of a BC violation. A mere touch by the offense wouldn't necessarily do that.

[ByRule]

Originally Posted by Raymond

If the defense deflects the ball, the offense can touch the ball anywhere and still regain player control in the back court. That's the rule.

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Raymond is correct.
NCAA M and NFHS are different- NCAA M changed rule on a deflected ball by the defense while the ball has front court status anyone can retrieve if the ball goes in the backcourt. Regardless of last to touch first to touch.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ByRule

Raymond is correct.
NCAA M and NFHS are different- NCAA M changed rule on a deflected ball by the defense while the ball has front court status anyone can retrieve if the ball goes in the backcourt. Regardless of last to touch first to touch.

In the OP (and based on subsequent posts) the ball *may not* have been in the FC when it was deflected -- so, based on this (and my subsequent reading of the rule), it may still have been a BC violation (depending, perhaps, on the loss of control / dribble issue).

In any event, if it takes all this to decide, then the official was correct -- no matter what the zapruder film shows.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by ByRule

Raymond is correct.
NCAA M and NFHS are different- NCAA M changed rule on a deflected ball by the defense while the ball has front court status anyone can retrieve if the ball goes in the backcourt. Regardless of last to touch first to touch.

As Bob said, ball was deflected while defender in BC and ball in BC. Rule change irrelevant as ball never had FC status until offensive player touched it. Really need that video.